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Old 07-14-2012, 09:39 PM
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i got this off a buddy of mine @ MIssissauga shop here the whole process was easy
they need 3 pictures of the car VIN, Rear end and cluster start up the car hook up OBD II computer read from there you allow 1 not ready so as long as no check engine light and they all ready you pass make it easy for us with HPTUNERS now for the guy did swap to 99-02 pcm make sure your pcm is reading your VIN on the door or front by windshield correct then shoulnt be problem

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i thought this hasent started yet. my shop still dynos them. this is great does it check if the monitiors have passed? or does it just check fornos ses light.
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they started slowly now it check monitors and ses light
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What about OBD1 cars? How will this work? Are they going to raise the exemption to start in 96/97 for OBD2?
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Originally Posted by spoolin turbo
What about OBD1 cars? How will this work? Are they going to raise the exemption to start in 96/97 for OBD2?
2 speed idle and 2500rpm sniffer for HC, CO
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Originally Posted by flame
2 speed idle and 2500rpm sniffer for HC, CO
No more Nox testing?

Also is this testing that the sensors are just there or are they testing that the sensors are actually functioning? I am not sure what the 1 not ready is actually measuring.

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Thats right no more Nox testing because the EGR valve is not generally used at idle only at cruise and a speed signal is required in most cases for it to be commanded open. The readiness tests are functional tests used by the pcm to help spot problems. They use various sensors to detect problems in the different systems.
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do they still 2 speed idel the car.
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Originally Posted by spiro27
do they still 2 speed idel the car.
After January 2013 98 and newer is plug in testing 97 older is 2 speed idle

Before January 2013 if the place is currently using the new system and the car fails then they run it the old way to see if it passes the sniffer test
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Originally Posted by flame
After January 2013 98 and newer is plug in testing 97 older is 2 speed idle

Before January 2013 if the place is currently using the new system and the car fails then they run it the old way to see if it passes the sniffer test
are you sure it is 98 and newer? if so that blows because I have OBD2 in my 96 and I'm laughing if this is all thats needed to pass.
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Yes 98 and newer 90% of the 96-97 vehicles were not fully OBDII compliant
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son of a, why couldn't they just say any car that was OBD 2 equipped??
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Is it possible to pass the 2-speed idle test with a 3000 stall?
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Originally Posted by LETZRIDE
son of a, why couldn't they just say any car that was OBD 2 equipped??
Because most of the 96-97 don't have enhanced EVAP, misfire detection, catalytic converter monitors that function. OBDII had a transition period and until 98 most of the manufacturers were dragging their feet.
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Originally Posted by Speedy
Is it possible to pass the 2-speed idle test with a 3000 stall?
Yeah my 3600 passed just fine!
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Originally Posted by Speedy
Is it possible to pass the 2-speed idle test with a 3000 stall?
mine passed on a 3200 stall until I went and threw in my larger cam. the driving portion the car is clean as hell, it's the idle that is totally off the charts on my car and which screws everything up.
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Originally Posted by LETZRIDE
mine passed on a 3200 stall until I went and threw in my larger cam. the driving portion the car is clean as hell, it's the idle that is totally off the charts on my car and which screws everything up.
Did you raise your idle to the 1200 rpm limit?
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Originally Posted by flame
Did you raise your idle to the 1200 rpm limit?
Ya, I think it may be the overlap in the cam. My old cam was 210/220 .512/.512, my new cam is 230/240 .512/.512

The old cam was a joke to get it to pass, the new cam I think the extra overlap just does it in, because the numbers weren't even close to the limits on idle lol
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Originally Posted by LETZRIDE
Ya, I think it may be the overlap in the cam. My old cam was 210/220 .512/.512, my new cam is 230/240 .512/.512

The old cam was a joke to get it to pass, the new cam I think the extra overlap just does it in, because the numbers weren't even close to the limits on idle lol
My cam is a 276HR-12 which is 224/230 @.050 with a 112lsa, .537/.544 I'm wondering if the 112 is going to be a problem. What is your lsa?
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Yours should be able to pass with good cats and tuning. LETZRIDE has a 3800 6cyl


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