Actually Steve, I do not run away, I take the bull by the horns and get to the bottom of it. Then find a solution that is viable for both parties. Then again I do negotiate million dollar plus contracts. I do not get that responsibility by being a stupid wimp.



Andre talked me into staying with Autoworx instead of going to APE. The best advice I could have gotten. The work done by Autoworx has been everything promised and more. In the same breathe Wade from FTR helped me out with hard to find parts as well and I thanked him for it. I should also point out Fast Toys as having great service too.



All I have done is state that I have had great work done and paid a fair price for the service from Autoworx.



What are your personal dealing with Autoworx Steve? Or are you just here having your strings pulled. I guess it gives you something to do during the day.





I guess my experience is just the one lucky case, right?



Or maybe it is a conspiracy to pretend to do good work and have happy customers, while being followed by Black Helicopters.



All I'm saying to Eugenio is all the shots on the net and side line babblers get him no where. Talk directly to the people respectfully and there is a chance, since I believe them to be an honorable bunch of guys.



Rampant

 

CAM: Tell me something & I want the honest truth, What was the real reason Ben, Luis & Nick hired you, what was the exact job that you were hired to do. Be carefull how you answer, you would be very suprized who's sitting next to me.

SSTEVEL: I assure you that Euginio would be a very happy person, I just needed more time with the guys, remember at the time he came to get the car it was 2 weeks at the most after I spoke to him in Montreal. I was new to the position & was going threw all the options with my NEW Crew at the time.

THE REST: I want to thank all the guys/Gals for all the support & PATIENCE you have given us. It's been a very long dark tunel & at one point (wich lasted a few seconds at the most) I wasn't sure if there was a light at the end of it. Now I can say that things get better everyday, the guys that I work with are some of the greatest people I've met & worked with in my life. Yes we bang head at times but they are still my brothers (luv ya Pete). Thanks to all the defending against the shots & accusations being made against us. I makes me happy knowing that the people that we helped appreciate the work & know that were more than just a speed shop. Wether it's customers that got caught in a crossfire of a fallen shop or the new person who's been asked time & time again to stay patient & accept the fact that somethings are out of our control. I would fight till the end to keep many of you happy, Yes even Euginio. It's up to you to make a desicion on wether you stay with us or go elsewere. I wish that the people that did leave us the best of luck & that our doors are always open & will stay open until THE TEAM (not a threatning ex-customer) decides otherwise.

Thank you

 

Dam Rampant, you had some fantastic posts there, very well spoken.




Funny how Eugenio denies he paid Wade a big deposit for his motor even though we still have a copy of the receipt Suzy wrote by hand.

This is what I don't get. Why does Eugenio just let that go and on top of it, try to lie about it.......unless they made him a deal on his new motor that includes slamming Autoworx everyday as one of the conditions.

 

based on what you say that they were gonna take care of me ?
I've given a lot of time for them to come always empty handed, and never committed to their word... I'm fed up of their word... I want results and actions... so I call it
That is false... I did give more $ to AutoWorx and they promised me the parts before and after giving $, and it was AutoWorx that destroyed my true duals, that installed them and lost half of it on the highway, and AutoWorx that did the 18:1 AF run as well.
Got that right. you have no clue whatsoever.
Tell them to send me a bill... but also send the missing parts too, if they want me to pay any bill.
I'll also deduct the sponsorship $ from the bill, something that Frankie has promised to give me long time ago... Oh wait... another lie, just and no actions... just talk the talk, but noone walks the walk.

And I draw the conclusions based on my experiences too... as for the knowledge, there are actually people posting here with lots more knowledge on the full situation than you.
I have no hard feelings for you and happy you didn't get the shaft from ARE/Autoworx... well, at least not yet.

 

when I went to pick up my car, I could swear that most of the day, most of the staff was in the front area just making jokes, talking about Pete's viagra, staying in the confort of A/C... while 1 mechanic was constantly working in the shop, and at some occasions 2.
Hmmm... maybe Zed was needed to have people work in there.
Maybe that's why my car went there and never got worked on.
Maybe that's why i kept on getting told the parts were ordered and never showed up... yet, next time calling, the parts were just ordered... but never had tracking #s.

 

Tried that approach for very long time, got me nowhere, got more lies and BS.... and always no results.

 

Then if you are a MAN OF YOUR WORD, send me the parts that are mine and I'll take back the accusations and allegations.

 

@ that time, I did not pay Wade, I sent a check to ARE.
Then, if you have the file, you'll also notice other payments that were made to Autoworx.
I never paid Wade... all the $ went to ARE and AutoWorx.
And since you have access to that, you'll also note that AutoWorx did a lot of empty promises that were never met, including their own commitments.
so, why don't you start by saying who you are, and not be a coward puppet.
afaik, you're also full of since you're not involved in the situation.

 

Gee glad to hear that, I was the one who offered you a LS1 block for free I might add to help out. Certainly nothing in it for me other than to help out a fellow car lover.

So I would say I have tried to help you were I could, at least within my budget.

A lot of people have not gotten the shaft from Autoworx as you put it and and that is the sad part since they are trying and doing good work. Hope some how some way you are made happy and can put it behind you as a bad chapter. We all have them along with the good.

Rampant

 

before picking the car, the car was @ the shop for 4 weeks and 2 days, and you were fully aware of the commitments given to me.
when I came back, nothing was done to the car, again...
the nitrous kit that PeteK told me was ordered in early june was never ordered, kit Nick stole from me for a "special deal" with another customer to which you all swore to give me back. And you had been in the shop for quite some time... since you had already picked the car up 2 months prior to that.
And after I left w/ the car, we did meet... and told me we would talk on wednesday... I called you wed, end of day, and you told me we will talk tomorrow (thursday).
Thursday end of day, i give you a call and you seem not too happy and tell me you told me on friday... ok, I could've misunderstood... fine!
call you friday end of day, you never respond to my calls, through the week-end.
I page you to contact me, yet you do not seem to want to get in touch with me, while I leave you messages... yet, you have time to give nasty comments on the boards about the plane not being able to land properly on the airport.

I think you are just full of it...
As I said it, if you are a MAN OF YOUR WORD, send me the parts that are mine.

I chose to deal elsewhere because you guys kept on blatantly lying and could never commit to any of your word and own timeline.
So just give me my parts... and I'll put this to rest.... parts I had paid 3rd party to install in my car, that you used for other cars and got $ for it.

 

As much as I appreciate the compliment, I would love to see some resolution come out of this. I also know how it would be hard to do that after the slander and threats.

It would be better to come to some resolution in the middle and tell all the band wagoner dicks to take a flying!@#@#!$!@. Autoworx is a great shop with some very talented hard working people. It is to bad you have to clean up someone elses **** and that some customers had to get caught in the middle of it. You have a new comp[any, shop and have kept the best and already shown you can build some great hardware, I'm just one small example.

Not sure who you are, thanks, but I will make own comments on my experiences.

Rampant

 

you did offer to help me out with a ls1 block, saying we can work something out... but never mentionned for free.
I appreciate you wanting to help me, and I would have done the same... actually, I did the same, basically giving my stock engine to Len from tfbm so he could have an engine due to a misshift... since my engine was getting torn apart anyways last year.

And as for putting it behind... well, I will if I at least get the parts shipped.
what do you expect, for me to pay for a 10k+$ engine, never get the full work completed, get parts stolen from me, lose sponsorship $, 7.5k$, get the F*** Off from them... and then just simply shut up and move on... hell no.
If they can simply f*** their customers the way they want it and bs to their convenience using ARE or AutoWorx as they wish and expect everyone they screw to shut up, and hope they keep on making $... screw it.

they decided to f*** with me... and I'll keep f***n with them until I get my parts... pretty simple.

 

Just so you know. I checked the PM I sent, it said you could have it but I did not use the word free, just have it. Sorry it was implied.

I did send Andre an email since I assumed you 2 were talking.

From: XXXXXXX[XXXXXXXX@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:28 PM
To: Andre Avigdor
Subject: Eugenio and my engine block.

Importance: High
Sensitivity: Confidential

I sent Eugenio a message, but he has not responded.

If I recall he gave his block to a fellow club member which I though was pretty nice. Just let him know he can have my block for free. If he needs it quick I’ll try to arrange something since the motor is out of my car.

I’ll keep the crank and rotating assembly, but the block is his if needed. It has never been out of the car so the bore has 100k on it but I would think it should be ok with some machining.

As for all the other crap I’m sick of it. I’ll likely disappear from LS2 for a while, but I’ll still be at the TFBM events and their forum, as they seem like a less hostile environment. To much going on in my life to let stupid stuff like this get to me and wreck my hobby.

Take care and let me know either way.

Regards,

Dale



I guess you never got the message.


Rampant

 

didn't get that email.
was an email from you to Andre... not me
Anyways... I decided to go with a ls2... thanks a lot for the offer, though.
Appreciate it.
Looking fwd to seeing you soon.

 

Yes it was to Andre since you had not responded.

BTW You will be happy with the LS2 and AFR combo. Completly different animal and I mean animal. Mine is actually quieter and smoother than my H/C.

Rampant

 

EUGINIO: I've just about had it with you I will publicly say that you will never get anything from me ever again, sleep in that nice fluffy bed you just made. Go ahead bash smash & try & ruin our name. Make the nastiest comments you can think of, come to my house & take pictures, I'll even have my wife wear something sexy.

As long as you know that all of it is going to come with a price to pay to me. I've been patient with you, now you find out what kind of WORD I do have.

Take it as a threat or whatever you want.

BTW, Go Fack yourself.

 

Nick and I sat down at Tim Hortons early or mid Nov of last year. After an hour long discussion, then a lunch meeting with Ben, Luis, Simon and Nick, Nick called me a few days later. The position was General Manager of AutoWorx/ARE.

A few days later, Nick and I had a discussion at his house and he told me not to use that term General Manager, to discuss my role as it was ruffling feathers. A Manager in hiding I was to become.

At that point, I should have walked away... really. Whether or not the employees would have agreed with my title and my role, it should have been made public.

So, with the General Manager title, and obvious responsibilities out the window my role slowly slid into accounting, answering phones and taking messages (and passing it on to those who actually had the answers, not me, which was a problem for those on the other end of the phone).

I'm not entirely sure whether the other owners knew of how I wasn't supposed to conduct myself, or mention my responsibilities but that was the case.

So, according to Rampant here, Peter was talking against one of his team-mates while I was washing my car? Nice team work, and team spirit, definately an indication of who he sincerely is looking out for. Himself and not the team.

Whatever... I don't care.

Its over... people can think what they want. The people who really matter know me.

 

Frankie, you know I like you and the guys at Autoworx, but this helps as much as Eugenio's and the bandwagoners comments. IMO.

This is a conversation that needs to take place in private between both parties. Someone step up and take the bull by the horns. You might be surprised what seems impossible may actually be pretty easy and almost painless.

Rampant

 

Learn to read Cam, I never said anything about Peter other than he would back you up on some story discussed on the way to Wendy's. Nothing about the car washing thing, that was an observation made by a minimum of 3 Autoworx customers, might have been more.

Rampant

 

CAM: MANAGER, you dropped the ball so many times that I thought I was playing in the NBA. You scammed all of us into believing that you were the answer. I'll take a step back now & let this **** sink in. You live in a world that I used to visit after a long night of abuse.