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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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Ok so i have had my truck running with the 6010 for about a year and a half and over the winter i pulled the motor and trans to do freshin up some things. I got it put back in and tried to start today andi wasnt getting a tach signal. So after replacing the crank sensor with a new one i still didnt have signal. I spoke with msd and they said they could test the box but if the sensor is good and the ground and 12 volts is good its probably the box. Have you guys had a box go bad before?
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guy I know runs the 6012 and is on his 6th one. Check your grounds and power again, then connect your laptop to it to see if it is powering on and communicating.

his is a wiring issue though, he had to replace a bunch of wiring I think is what was said.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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I have 11.9 volts to pink wire and a good ground. The box communicates to computer. I also checked the voltage and ground at the sensor and i also get some voltage on the feedback wire from crank sensor when cranking.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 08:25 AM
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Dupe oops
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 08:27 AM
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I have 11.9 volts to pink wire and a good ground. The box communicates to computer. I also checked the voltage and ground at the sensor and i also get some voltage on the feedback wire from crank sensor when cranking.
11.9 seems kinda low.

I'll bet she's cranking slow too.

Charge the living **** out of your battery borderline overcharge and then see if you can get fire (a non electronic charger works best)..

It's what I had to do for my initial startup to ever get ignition.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 08:46 AM
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Msd said it was fine. It cranks just fine. I have had it start with alot less voltage.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 70shortwide
Msd said it was fine. It cranks just fine. I have had it start with alot less voltage.

Unfortunately till the box relearns your crank and cam sensor signal it's gonna have to spin pretty hard. Take the plugs out and crank it and see if you have ignition then

11.9v is a battery almost 1/2 discharged. Why are you trying to start it without charging anyways.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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I would try what Krochus said. Get your volts up and have it crank faster. Might even try it with the battery charger hooked up. Try cleaning the battery posts while you are at it. Clean the connectors on any ground straps between the motor and chassis too. If you do all that and it still doesn't register a cranking speed on the lap top, try pulling your plugs and crank it again.

In the early days it was pretty common to have the boxes not read a crank signal until the motor was cranked over at a high speed. Guys would even have to pull spark plugs to get it to crank over fast enough to register the first time. Seems like once it registers it will work from then out. Some guys said they had to go so far as to crank the motor over with 2 batteries (24 v) to the starter. Not sure I would ever recommend that though.

I assume you triple checked all the coil packs are plugged in and nothing else is loose?
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Is the box getting power when cranking is my next question?

Did you check that?

And this board is riddled with 6010 hard start issues. Try a charger on boost without plugs and pull a boot back to listen for ignition popping.
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Yes box is getting power while cranking. I charged battery to 12.8 then put charger on 50 amp start and cranked for 10-15 seconds about 5 times and nothing. Nothing has changed since the last time it ran.
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Originally Posted by 70shortwide
Yes box is getting power while cranking. I charged battery to 12.8 then put charger on 50 amp start and cranked for 10-15 seconds about 5 times and nothing. Nothing has changed since the last time it ran.
Nextstep is pull the plugs and repeat this operation checking for an RPM signal and spark

The box isn't powered on a relay is it?
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No its not.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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If a fast no compression crank doesn't synchronize things I would start opening a channel with msd
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I contacted them yesterday and they said they can test the box but cannot repair it because its a potted unit. I think i will let them test it.
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Keep us posted
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Keep us posted im having the exact same problem right now with my 5.3 mustang.
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Honestly i hope the box is ok because if its not i probably wont be bying another one. I will just go fuel injected.
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Not being a smartass, seriously, but are you certain everything is plugged in? Is the cam sensor plugged in and did you check it? Are you running a MAP sensor, and if not did you zero out the MAP table? Just things I have both had told to me and read about.

Check to make sure none of the harness might have gotten pinched when re-assembling everything.
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Originally Posted by 70shortwide
Yes box is getting power while cranking. I charged battery to 12.8 then put charger on 50 amp start and cranked for 10-15 seconds about 5 times and nothing. Nothing has changed since the last time it ran.
By nothing you mean it won't start or the lap top hooked to the box while cranking isn't showing RPM?
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No rpm on the laptop when cranking
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