bmf5150

does anyone know if u use the windage tray with the s&p modded oil pan for a 1968 camaro?

Steve68

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I think the answer is no, look at my oil pan in the "oil pan" stickys,

bczee

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Are you referring to an 4th Gen F-Body LS1 pan ?.. if so. and the pan modification is the to lower sump area.. then it should not effect or be a clearance problem with the F-body LS1 Windage tray. You should be able to continue using one.

If using a F-Body LS1 pan, then you will have to continue using the 3/4 F-Body tray due to the F-Body pan having a very shallow front sump area in the pan.

Or as Steve did, not use one... Should not really effect performance until you start getting into the higher RPM Range.

Steve68

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my pan, noticed shortened baffle,



there has been numerous engine failures using the S&P chopped up pan with no baffle, but the windage tray can be used, I was confusing baffle and windage tray, sorry,

c6matt

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acording to the s&p instructions.. nope..

bmf5150

I'm not sure if mine has baffles or not,I guess I need to check!!I also don't have correct windage tray for for the modified pan,only for corvette pan!

bczee

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You can cut a full one down to 3/4 if you need to. but they are pertty cheap if you have to buy the correct one.

But the lower Baffle is important to contain the oil into the sump during braking, takeoff and turning.. Also lowering the oil capacity can be a problem both for High RPM operation and the oil breaking down.

Steve68

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I've heard of people loosing oil pressure and trashing the mains, an this happening during hard braking, with the S&P cut pan, the one they charge alot for,

c6matt

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I've not had a problem with oil starvation.. here is whats in the car..

Steve68

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No baffle bolted to the pan???? if not. why did you not cut one down? just asking, my reasons are I plan on tracking the car, 4 pt. cage harnesses and all!!!

bmf5150

Mine look exactly like c6matt,little nervous about this oil pan!I need to find the baffle that bolts in the bottom and windage tray!any good ideas where to get one???

Jimbo1367

ebay. I persoanlly would try someone like PACE or PartsTAxi. IIRC.. under $50 for both.

bmf5150

Thanks,I will looking!!f I can't find it might switch to morosos pan!

bmf5150

Ok,I have windage tray from stock corvette pan,hope it will fit different pan!but I am missing baffle,so I need to try and get one!think pace or dealership would sell them??don't see any on eBay!!!

bmf5150

I talked to s&p today,said I don't need the baffle!for my own piece of mind I went and got one today !I have to mod it to fit the pan and move oil tube cutout!

Steve68

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That what S&P tells everyone, "you don't need it" but what about the numerous people that have wasted there mains from oil starvation?

bmf5150

Exactly,maybe it would be fine,but I Dont wAnt to take the risk!

sabastian458

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In my brothers 68, that I helped build, we started the swap at the same time as the full resto, we used a modified pan just like what is shown in post 9. The engine lasted 6+ years, being thrashed on hard. We bumped the cam up to a MS4 and after being retuned, it ended up with a spun rod bearing due to oil starvation. We put an Iron LS2 in it, 243 heads, fast 102 w/ fast throttlebody, and new exhaust, that engine is about to turn 2 years runing on same oil pan without the baffle. Needed? Not in my opinion, but if you have a baffle, why not mod it to fit anyways?

bmf5150

Thanks sabation!

bczee

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Lets cut to the chase!.. (These are IMO, so don't burn me guys, just my option ! ).

You ask ?, ...
- Do you need them ?..... No, not really !
- Do you want them ? .... Most likely Yes !... But for normal type of a Daily Driver.. no real advantage.. and can get away without them.

- Why would I want a Windage tray?,... Cause if you start to get in to the higher RPM Range. you want a Windage tray to help out to control internal windage and oil mist in the crank case, which can will help increase engine efficency and output.

- Why would I want that lower oil pan Baffle ?... If you start making hard turns, Stop and starts. Again you will want one. It helps keep the oil in the lower sump area and assist with keeping the engine from oil starvation.

But, its your Choice..

BC