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Old 04-09-2015, 08:33 AM
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Picked up the rear end housing from powder coat yesterday. I really like how the semi-gloss black came out. It's perfect. Hopefully it holds up like it's supposed to. Now I just need to assemble the center section, axles and brakes. Only fab work left is a simple bracket for the center brake line, and then the hard lines over to the caliper flex lines. Hopefully a few more nights and it'll be ready to bolt in!

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Rear is almost ready to go in. Just need to finish the hard brake lines and do a little touch up paint and she's ready. I'm not crazy about the rubber hose loop from the hard line to the caliper, but I couldn't think of a better way. I saw a couple other people do this. It's not terrible, but it's not elegant either. Don't worry about that super long bolt sticking thru the bracket......I've got the correct length SS bolts to replace. That was temporary until I got the right bolts.





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Sub'd! Awesome! Love this build!

Going very similar route with my S10. Just doing the 9" first then the blower HAHA!
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That is an odd color brake line. What is the material?
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A lot of times its called "Ni-cop" Its a nickle copper alloy. With a very similar burst strength as steel line. But its mush easier to bend and doesnt corrode like raw steel line.
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Originally Posted by drmrman
A lot of times its called "Ni-cop" Its a nickle copper alloy. With a very similar burst strength as steel line. But its mush easier to bend and doesnt corrode like raw steel line.
Very interesting. I am not familiar with it. I will have to check that out.
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Originally Posted by speedtigger
Very interesting. I am not familiar with it. I will have to check that out.
Check out my Cougar build, starting at about post#325:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...l#post18729510

I used NiCopp lines for bot brake and fuel line. Super easy to bend and flare.

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Very interesting. I am not familiar with it. I will have to check that out.
Its very cool. Quite a bit more expensive but worth every penny when it comes to ease of use. Makes bends and flares a breeze. I used to use it at a shop I worked at. We would run complete fullsize trucks with it. It was great!
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everything about this is awesome
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What is your bottom radiator hose for? Or do you have a part number?
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Originally Posted by bigdaddy1964
What is your bottom radiator hose for? Or do you have a part number?
I'll check tonight. I think I still have the tag with P/N in a file folder.

And regarding the Copper Nickel brake line....as others have said, it's expensive but worth every penny in my opinion. It flares and bend so easy. It's the only thing I'll run from now on. I'd be curious on long-term corrosion resistance though vs. Stainless Steel. It doesn't matter on this car, since it never sees salt, but brake lines are a constant battle here in New England. I replace lines with SS generally, but this might be an even better option!
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Originally Posted by bigdaddy1964
What is your bottom radiator hose for? Or do you have a part number?
Unfortunately I couldn't find the tag or P/N for my lower hose. I did find the P/N for the upper hose (Dayco 71132), which I know doesn't help, but I guess I'm posting it just to prove I made a solid effort to find it. I might look a little more tonight, but I didn't see it in my folder of receipts, which is where it would be. Sorry I couldn't help. I wish the number was inked onto the hose itself.

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Got the rear installed last night! Pretty uneventful except for a potential disaster with the shocks interfering with the brake lines. I had to reposition the flex line on the bracket, which was easier said than done, but I made it work. The driver's side I bent the bracket (on the brake line itself) 180 degrees so I could mount it inboard instead of outboard.

Now I just need to install the sway bar, exhaust, and shifter. Then top off fluids, and bleed the slave cylinder and rear brakes. I think that's pretty much it and she'll be on the road again. 500 mile break-in on the clutch......bummer.





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Unfortunately I couldn't find the tag or P/N for my lower hose. I did find the P/N for the upper hose (Dayco 71132), which I know doesn't help, but I guess I'm posting it just to prove I made a solid effort to find it. I might look a little more tonight, but I didn't see it in my folder of receipts, which is where it would be. Sorry I couldn't help. I wish the number was inked onto the hose itself.

Thanks anyway doing a 65 chevelle swap! Found one that works
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Heading up to NED next Friday, would love to see your car.
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Heading up to NED next Friday, would love to see your car.
I would love to go, but the car won't be ready. Well, not unless I can put 500 miles on the clutch for break-in by then. (it's really 1200 cycles that they want). Plus I won't have my Toyo R888s mounted by then.....I'm waiting for some new rear wheels with revised backspacing.

But you're welcome to stop by my house in Bow if you want! But it's a bit out of the way.

Small chance I'd take a ride down there just to watch, but it'd be late (after my kids go to bed). We'll see what the weather does....maybe I'll take a cruise. I need to break-in the clutch anyway, right?! Unfortunately, it's mostly highway.
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I have been following your post for some time with a great deal of interest. I am in the process of putting and LS3 525 hp crate engine with a T 56 Magnum trans from American Powertrain into my 1967 GTO convertible. I have ditched the GM muscle car oil pan in favor of the Holley 301-1 oil pan. I am still worried about the tie rod clearance issues. What all did you have to do with the trans support cross member? Have you changed the fuel supply set up? I am looking at the in-tank fuel pump setup from Tanks, Inc. Thanks for keeping up your post! Dublin GTO
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Originally Posted by dublingto
I have been following your post for some time with a great deal of interest. I am in the process of putting and LS3 525 hp crate engine with a T 56 Magnum trans from American Powertrain into my 1967 GTO convertible. I have ditched the GM muscle car oil pan in favor of the Holley 301-1 oil pan. I am still worried about the tie rod clearance issues. What all did you have to do with the trans support cross member? Have you changed the fuel supply set up? I am looking at the in-tank fuel pump setup from Tanks, Inc. Thanks for keeping up your post! Dublin GTO
I'm running the Pace Performance oil pan and am very happy with it. Tie rod clearance is tight, but it clears.

I'm running the stock transmission cross member, but I have a TKO-600, not a T56. I don't see why you couldn't use yours though. My car has multiple holes in the frame to move the cross member forward and back. I would assume some, if not all of those holes are factory for different transmission options. Not that I'd hesitate to drill a set of new ones if necessary. But who knows if the cross member height even works with the T56. I'm no help there, sorry.

As for fuel, I was running an external Walbro, which was fine except for the normal less-than-1/2-tank fuel starvation issue when accelerating or cornering hard. The Tanks Inc setup is popular and probably a solid choice. I have since switched to the Aeromotive Phantom in-tank system. I'm happy with it. The benefit is that you only have to drill holes and not weld on an existing gas tank. I filled mine with water when I did it, just to be safe. I'm not convinced it completely eliminates fuel starvation at lower gas levels, but it's pretty good. I think they might offer an entire gas tank for our cars now and I think it's more competitively priced compared to a Rick's or Rock Valley tank. Granted, I don't think it's stainless.

http://aeromotiveinc.com/phantom-fuel-system/
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Originally Posted by dublingto
I have been following your post for some time with a great deal of interest. I am in the process of putting and LS3 525 hp crate engine with a T 56 Magnum trans from American Powertrain into my 1967 GTO convertible. I have ditched the GM muscle car oil pan in favor of the Holley 301-1 oil pan. I am still worried about the tie rod clearance issues. What all did you have to do with the trans support cross member? Have you changed the fuel supply set up? I am looking at the in-tank fuel pump setup from Tanks, Inc. Thanks for keeping up your post! Dublin GTO
I have the 302-1 pan and it fits with a little room to spare. I have big tires up front so I am limited to lock to lock clearance. Check out my build for the ls3- 525 in a 66 GTO.
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What headers did you settle on? I have the Doug's D3336R headers on my GTO and they fit right to the floor. I opted for the non coated headers because the idiots at Pertronix put the O2 bungs in the wrong spot on the collectors. I welded a set of binge on the inside of the collector so I did not have to cross over the header with wiring. They are getting coated as I write this.


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