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Old 09-10-2011, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Negative, not a 1998 one..
So once again, the 98 is the oddball, not surprising....

Okay then, 99-02 F-Body trans bell housing.
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bell housing is loaded with bolts! pita to get out with the limited space to get a wrench into. i hope to get it out tomorrow after work. is there ANYTHING i need to save from the tahoe to go with the transmission?
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Originally Posted by 97badass
bell housing is loaded with bolts! pita to get out with the limited space to get a wrench into. i hope to get it out tomorrow after work. is there ANYTHING i need to save from the tahoe to go with the transmission?
If it's a junker....cut the pigtails off the harness for anything that plugs into the transmission (TCC solenoid/VSS, etc.) You may never need them, but if you have to buy them from GM they are quite expensive. Heck, just clip all the weatherpack style connectors you can grab while you are at it. Especially when you can get both sides of a connection. I bet you will end up using alot of them.
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yeah i planned on hacking the harness ends off bc my ls1 harness the idiot broke a couple ends off. thanks for the reply.
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trans is finally out! i kept all the plugs just cut the main harness to it. now the fun begins of finding a bell housing and rebuilding it to hold the power.
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Things are coming along for you. I hope that 4L60e holds up. Have you thought about going TH350/TH400?? Everything from here down in this post is just for your consideration since I bet your rearend won't make it long with the power you are going to have.
I made progress on my 12 bolt this evening. My friend is through fabbing all the mounting brackets from a spare 3rd gen rear onto my 69 Impala housing. He also got the upper tabs welded to it and fabbed the upper link bars and brackets for the mini-ladder bars. Beefy 5/8" rod ends and tubes were solid round bars (1 1/4" I think) that he drilled and tapped LH/RH. I had always thought people used hollow but thick walled pipe with welded on tube ends to build 4 link bars. The housing ends are the same stock so I'll just keep my LT1 brakes. TQ arm go bye-bye. (Not that I dislike it, but there is no easy way to accomodate it on a home-built rearend.) All I have left to do is assemble it and swap it out for the whiney 7.5".
I dare say this is going to be cheaper than all the 8.8 builds so popular for me. It would be even easier to do with an 8.5" ten bolt.
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i hope a 9" holds...

yeah i decided to ditch the th400 i had for the 4l60e for the overdrive since i will be driving the car to shows and the strip. right now my main focus is getting it driveable/ put back together. its not very pretty having a shell sitting on blocks in the driveway
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I didn't realize you had already upgraded the rear. I know that 9" will be adequate. (Understatement!) Non-overdrives aren't that bad if you do mostly short trips. 3.73's and a 3 spd auto could still give decent milege as long as the convertor wasn't too inefficient at cruise.
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its an hour to any bigger towns from where i live driving mostly 70/75. thats the reason i picked the 4l60e plus they can be built reliable.
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Originally Posted by 93Z2871805
So once again, the 98 is the oddball, not surprising....

Okay then, 99-02 F-Body trans bell housing.
1998-02 F-body, that Trans is actually the same to '03 in the trucks..

I thought you were the Trans expert..
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Originally Posted by 93Z2871805
If the transmission is off of a Vortec 350 SBC, it would be the same as an LT1 4l60e, just with a removable bell. You'd either need to adapt that bell the same way you adapt an older trans to an LSX, or just swap to a 98-02 4l60e f-body bell or another LSX based vehicle's bell with a 4l60e.
Originally Posted by the_merv
Negative, not a 1998 one..

That is the first year that the LS Style is run on ANY GM Engine, except for the 4L80E ofcourse.

I've only seen a few roll through the shop...just a few..

It will work with a LS Convertor..that's all you need to make it happen.
Originally Posted by the_merv
1998-02 F-body, that Trans is actually the same to '03 in the trucks..
You said the 98 doesn't have a removable bell. I've never had a 98+ 4L60E/4L65E to rebuild. But other than the bell, it's basically the same as an 82-97 700R4/4L60/4L60E.

Originally Posted by the_merv
I thought you were the Trans expert..

If you like, I could teach you how to rebuild one? Or a TH400/TH375-A/TH475/3L80/TH425, TH350/TH350-C/TH375-B/TH250, or Powerglide?

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I guess I read something wrong...anyways all 1998-up GM 4L60E/4L65E are removeable bell.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I guess I read something wrong...anyways all 1998-up GM 4L60E/4L65E are removeable bell.
Like I said dude, I've never had a 98+ 4l60/65e to tinker with, so you'd know first-hand. I'd just assume the 98 is the odd one, lol.
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wow, my brain looks like scrambled eggs from reading that... will a 5.3/6.0 bell housing work or does it have to be from a car?
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Yes, as long as it's off of a 4l60e or 4l65e.
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There is no such things as a 5.3/6.0l Bell housing..

Car: 4L60E
Trucks:
5.3- 4L60E
6.0- 4L80E

Two whole different kinds of Transmissions.
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alright. thanks merv. i hope to shoot paint this weekend on the engine bay, i ran out of sand tonight but all thats left is the drivers frame rail and the k member. then i get to start putting stuff back together next week.
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where did you get your torque converter merv? i was looking at 4l60-e.com and they have some pretty good prices on stuff. here is my list of trans parts...
hughes pro rebuild kit with red alto frictions and kolene steels.
trans go shift kit
3k stall
vette servo
maybe a few more small things?

but overall things are coming together nicely and starting to look pretty damn good. just not feeling the yellow primer engine bay.
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Which one..the one in the S10, or the one in the Monte Carlo SS?
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Originally Posted by 97badass
where did you get your torque converter merv? i was looking at 4l60-e.com and they have some pretty good prices on stuff. here is my list of trans parts...
hughes pro rebuild kit with red alto frictions and kolene steels.
trans go shift kit
3k stall
vette servo
maybe a few more small things?

but overall things are coming together nicely and starting to look pretty damn good. just not feeling the yellow primer engine bay.
Sun shell?
Stator?
Output Shaft?
Deeper Pan?
Cooler?

I'd look at PTC or Phoenix for converters.

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