Garage Built AWD Camaro
#161
I was talking to 97camaroguy : ) He has been on the internet and posted but cant make any progress on the build because of being deployed
#166
I can do that. I have been using my time out here in Afghanistan refining some of ideas I have on final drivetrain layout vs what works in the real world. Been reading up on drive shaft angles and how they can effect vibrations in the car, and I'm now thinking this configuration needs a tweek...
With the rear axle where it is in this sketch, it makes it so I have to mount the engine alittle higher, and gives me a drive shaft angle that may be over 3 degrees. That might cause some vibrations, and I think I have a solid way to fix that.... Just extend the wheel base by pushing the rear axle out.
Here's a sketch to show what I'm thinking, and it does include the Ford 9" carriers I will definetly be using to address the reverse wheel rotation issue I ran into.
Don't worry about the shortened nose just yet, it's an idea I'm playing with. But the drive train sits in the car alot better with a lower mounting position, and the drive shaft angles will have good placement. I will definetly be extending the wheel base. Since it's a unibody, I'm looking at kit car websites for guidance. Since those guys extend the wheel bases on Fieros all the time to make their cars, it's a good point to reference.
I've gotten my funds built back up, so when I return home I intend to finish the chassis work, body work, and make the car a roller ready for paint. I'll guess it will take 6 months worth of weekends as well, all that fab work is not going to be easy. Doing all the work myself, with the tools I need to buy still, I predict I'll spend $2,500.00 to get it to roller status.
With only $2,050.00 invested so far, I am definetly keeping my cost under control. Untill spring of 2013......
With the rear axle where it is in this sketch, it makes it so I have to mount the engine alittle higher, and gives me a drive shaft angle that may be over 3 degrees. That might cause some vibrations, and I think I have a solid way to fix that.... Just extend the wheel base by pushing the rear axle out.
Here's a sketch to show what I'm thinking, and it does include the Ford 9" carriers I will definetly be using to address the reverse wheel rotation issue I ran into.
Don't worry about the shortened nose just yet, it's an idea I'm playing with. But the drive train sits in the car alot better with a lower mounting position, and the drive shaft angles will have good placement. I will definetly be extending the wheel base. Since it's a unibody, I'm looking at kit car websites for guidance. Since those guys extend the wheel bases on Fieros all the time to make their cars, it's a good point to reference.
I've gotten my funds built back up, so when I return home I intend to finish the chassis work, body work, and make the car a roller ready for paint. I'll guess it will take 6 months worth of weekends as well, all that fab work is not going to be easy. Doing all the work myself, with the tools I need to buy still, I predict I'll spend $2,500.00 to get it to roller status.
With only $2,050.00 invested so far, I am definetly keeping my cost under control. Untill spring of 2013......
#172
Did y'all see this? Basically did the same thing, but looks like the engine sits pretty high in this build.
http://jalopnik.com/5967308/you-want...celica-alltrac
http://jalopnik.com/5967308/you-want...celica-alltrac
#176
alright, someones been in my head cause i was thinking about somthing like this a few years back, but notwilling to put that kind of money or time into the engineering.
I had a thought though, instead or trying to make a front bias (not sure if youve changed your mind yet) transaxle, id try and locate an alwheel drive system out of an Evo or STI or even an older skyline and see if you can get it to hook up to the transaxle. Now mind oyu i know the IL4 and V8 would create totaly diferent stressors on thes systems but an LS1 cracks out 300 out the gate, and most of the STI and EVOs crank out about that (turbod of course). would reduce mass and enginering time and then oyu can focus on adpting an ls1 and trans to an allwheel drive system. Also your probably gonna have to look into a independadent rear suspention to create some room in the back.
I had a thought though, instead or trying to make a front bias (not sure if youve changed your mind yet) transaxle, id try and locate an alwheel drive system out of an Evo or STI or even an older skyline and see if you can get it to hook up to the transaxle. Now mind oyu i know the IL4 and V8 would create totaly diferent stressors on thes systems but an LS1 cracks out 300 out the gate, and most of the STI and EVOs crank out about that (turbod of course). would reduce mass and enginering time and then oyu can focus on adpting an ls1 and trans to an allwheel drive system. Also your probably gonna have to look into a independadent rear suspention to create some room in the back.
#179