New Hooker G-Body LS Swap System Preview
02-05-2015, 07:21 PM
#421
Just so there's a base level of understanding here, Holley or any other manufacturer has no control over the posting of shipping/ availability dates posted on a distributor's website. If you don't see an application listed with a "buy it now" button on the Holley website then it is not yet officially available. As to the question of origin previously posted... Holley 303-2 oil pan- cast overseas, machined in Bowling Green KY, Hooker headers and exhaust systems- fabricated in Aberdeen MS, Hooker engine brackets and transmission crossmembers- fabricated in Minnesota.
02-05-2015, 07:38 PM
#422
Since I belong to the Army, I understand the significance of timings and the severe consequences in missing them; including loss of life. So please do not feel the obligation to preach to me about such things.
That's nice. But, these are special order parts that are fresh to market - and if you expected that deadlines were going to be respected, and you banked on them being met: you were kidding yourself. So yes, you have indicated that you feel entitled to the parts because you ordered them, and you will in time receive them. However, if you wanted timely delivery of readily available parts to get your car running (and your wife happy) you would not be playing around in a hobby.
So why are you publicly badgering the manufacturer if you bought the parts from a distributor? I could possibly see your approach if you had purchased the parts directly from Holley (at a higher price point, and without free shipping, no less), and then found no satisfaction in dealing with them directly. But, no - your issue is with Summit; so why drag Holley through the mud simply because they are not able to pump out brand new parts at the rate you demand? Supply and demand; and demand is outweighing supply at this time - pretty simple economics.
Well boo-hoo.
Again, this is a "you issue". Why should Summit (or Holley for that matter) really give a crap about your poor planning or life choices? Yet there you sit feeling obligated to make business difficult for Holley - who to date, in this thread, has provided outstanding communication directly to the consumer. Communication is the only thing that you are "owed" for your $1100 investment on your brand new special order parts.
So to sum up your beef: Your advice is that if you have a hobby car and want to customize it with brand new special order parts you may have to wait for parts? Thanks, Tips.
Welcome to the age of hyper-immediacy and instant-gratification.
That's nice. But, these are special order parts that are fresh to market - and if you expected that deadlines were going to be respected, and you banked on them being met: you were kidding yourself. So yes, you have indicated that you feel entitled to the parts because you ordered them, and you will in time receive them. However, if you wanted timely delivery of readily available parts to get your car running (and your wife happy) you would not be playing around in a hobby.
So why are you publicly badgering the manufacturer if you bought the parts from a distributor? I could possibly see your approach if you had purchased the parts directly from Holley (at a higher price point, and without free shipping, no less), and then found no satisfaction in dealing with them directly. But, no - your issue is with Summit; so why drag Holley through the mud simply because they are not able to pump out brand new parts at the rate you demand? Supply and demand; and demand is outweighing supply at this time - pretty simple economics.
Well boo-hoo.
Again, this is a "you issue". Why should Summit (or Holley for that matter) really give a crap about your poor planning or life choices? Yet there you sit feeling obligated to make business difficult for Holley - who to date, in this thread, has provided outstanding communication directly to the consumer. Communication is the only thing that you are "owed" for your $1100 investment on your brand new special order parts.
So to sum up your beef: Your advice is that if you have a hobby car and want to customize it with brand new special order parts you may have to wait for parts? Thanks, Tips.
Welcome to the age of hyper-immediacy and instant-gratification.
Judging by your responses you also have no clue how businesses work. Preach on mental midget! Preach on! Distributors get their dates from somewhere...wonder how anyone finds out about the release of a product.
And it has nothing to do with making the wife happy retard it has to do with a growing family and the fact I got a better job. Unfortunately can't take it al with u....the buck stops with Holley. They make great products but if it isn't ready, don't advertise it as such.
Last edited by BanditDave; 02-05-2015 at 08:16 PM.
02-05-2015, 08:16 PM
#423
Hey banditdave. I empathize will your frustration as I too would want to receive anything I purchase ASAP. New product launches are tricky to manage as the first runs of each part are manually executed due to the automatic re-order signals of our system not becoming active until the 1st runs begin to sell through. We have to load all new parts in our system prior to building them for the first time so that proper accounting of the manufacturing process can take place. Once the part numbers are in the system, they can be accessed by a reseller and posted on their website even before an official product release has been sent out announcing their availability. I am careful to label all of these Hooker LS swap threads I manage "preview" threads as I start them long before release dates are yet known. I apologize for any mis-information you may have received regarding your purchase and hope you are able to soon recieve the parts and enjoy their benefits.
02-05-2015, 08:34 PM
#424
Hey banditdave. I empathize will your frustration as I too would want to receive anything I purchase ASAP. New product launches are tricky to manage as the first runs of each part are manually executed due to the automatic re-order signals of our system not becoming active until the 1st runs begin to sell through. We have to load all new parts in our system prior to building them for the first time so that proper accounting of the manufacturing process can take place. Once the part numbers are in the system, they can be accessed by a reseller and posted on their website even before an official product release has been sent out announcing their availability. I am careful to label all of these Hooker LS swap threads I manage "preview" threads as I start them long before release dates are yet known. I apologize for any mis-information you may have received regarding your purchase and hope you are able to soon recieve the parts and enjoy their benefits.
Honestly he has no impact on me whatsoever so he can say whatever he wants. What frustrates me and others I have spoken with is that dates are in print...then it comes and goes. That would be fine if money was not taken...that should not happen.
Will I get stuff from holley...absolutely! And again i will modify my post so that it better conveys the situation. Annoying when know it alls question peoples motivation and act like they understand things. I work 60 hrs a week and am going part time for my PhD at night so I get a little upset when people talk to me about self entitlement...maybe in 10 years I'll have that paper...hahaha
I unfortunately had a buyer for the car contingent on me finalizing the swap with the holley kit end of February...when that was missed, he backed out...sucks.
It's my problem but I planned around information give by several reputable companies.
End of the world, no. Has just made things a lot more complicated...haha
Best,
Dave
02-08-2015, 05:38 AM
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02-08-2015, 06:22 AM
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02-08-2015, 10:50 AM
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I used 98-02 F-body long tubes from Texas Speed and they fit pretty damn good with the 1 inch set back plates. Driver side needed 0 mods and the passenger side needed the typical dent of the one primary tube. Not sure if they would fit with non set back plates but can't beat the fact that they fit pretty well and they can be removed after installed in about 15 minutes.
02-08-2015, 01:05 PM
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I used 98-02 F-body long tubes from Texas Speed and they fit pretty damn good with the 1 inch set back plates. Driver side needed 0 mods and the passenger side needed the typical dent of the one primary tube. Not sure if they would fit with non set back plates but can't beat the fact that they fit pretty well and they can be removed after installed in about 15 minutes.
02-08-2015, 02:07 PM
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Ive had mostly magnaflow, but for this 84hurst olds project im thinking between magnaflow or borla.
I just want to thank you not only for putting effort in creating parts for out g-bodies vehicles but also for being on this forum helping with our questions. When other major companies dont even acknowledge our cars.
These are parts most of us with lil to no fabrication skills have been wishing on for years. Major reason why i didnt cry or complain while waiting to receive my long tube headers, crossmember, motor mounts and oil pan.
I just want to thank you not only for putting effort in creating parts for out g-bodies vehicles but also for being on this forum helping with our questions. When other major companies dont even acknowledge our cars.
These are parts most of us with lil to no fabrication skills have been wishing on for years. Major reason why i didnt cry or complain while waiting to receive my long tube headers, crossmember, motor mounts and oil pan.
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02-08-2015, 03:48 PM
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Ive had mostly magnaflow, but for this 84hurst olds project im thinking between magnaflow or borla.
I just want to thank you not only for putting effort in creating parts for out g-bodies vehicles but also for being on this forum helping with our questions. When other major companies dont even acknowledge our cars.
These are parts most of us with lil to no fabrication skills have been wishing on for years. Major reason why i didnt cry or complain while waiting to receive my long tube headers, crossmember, motor mounts and oil pan.
I just want to thank you not only for putting effort in creating parts for out g-bodies vehicles but also for being on this forum helping with our questions. When other major companies dont even acknowledge our cars.
These are parts most of us with lil to no fabrication skills have been wishing on for years. Major reason why i didnt cry or complain while waiting to receive my long tube headers, crossmember, motor mounts and oil pan.
No problem with the help, I find it to be one of the more enjoyable aspects of my job. I have also noticed a distinct absence of most of our competitors on this and other forums that I follow...they seem to show up to say they have some new swap headers that are being released and then disappear without providing any fitment details or showing any installed photos of the products to show what you can expect from them.
Holley is very serious about the LS swap market and providing components that improve the results of the swaps being undertaken.
02-08-2015, 04:34 PM
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I would like to keep my engine's vvt system. Which means i would have to install a truck's accessory spacer alignment..right? And with that brings up clearance issues with the steering box. If i run the smaller cts ps pulley with a 600 steering box everything should clear?
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02-08-2015, 05:09 PM
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Sorry to ask this when its seems its been covered, but i need to assure myself. I will be installing your whole new holley/hooker gbody product line. Oil pan, motor mounts, headers, trans crossmember, full accessory drive kit..ext.
I would like to keep my engine's vvt system. Which means i would have to install a truck's accessory spacer alignment..right? And with that brings up clearance issues with the steering box. If i run the smaller cts ps pulley with a 600 steering box everything should clear?
I would like to keep my engine's vvt system. Which means i would have to install a truck's accessory spacer alignment..right? And with that brings up clearance issues with the steering box. If i run the smaller cts ps pulley with a 600 steering box everything should clear?
02-09-2015, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by
Toddoky - I guess the kit included PSpulley I can't use with the Vette spacing. You figure I will be able to send it back for a refund? It's a $50 part. Thx for the help. Found the CTS-V pulley for $30 new. Toddoky;18620099
Toddoky - I guess the kit included PSpulley I can't use with the Vette spacing. You figure I will be able to send it back for a refund? It's a $50 part. Thx for the help. Found the CTS-V pulley for $30 new. Toddoky;18620099
Just send the unused pulley back and you'll get a refund.
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02-09-2015, 07:57 AM
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I see where you coming from in practical terms, but I don't work in Sales I can't say whether or not you'd get anywhere on the phone with Holley trying to make such a return for credit. You would have to proceed knowing there is a possibility that you would not be able to get what you are asking...I honestly just don't know. You would probably have better luck and actually make a few extra bucks in your pocket just selling the mufflers on ebay.
If your thought is to swap them out for Magnaflow mufflers, be aware that you would be swapping out 304SS TIG welded mufflers (Hooker mufflers) for 409SS MIG welded mufflers (Magnaflow).
02-09-2015, 08:35 AM
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Sorry to ask this when its seems its been covered, but i need to assure myself. I will be installing your whole new holley/hooker gbody product line. Oil pan, motor mounts, headers, trans crossmember, full accessory drive kit..ext.
I would like to keep my engine's vvt system. Which means i would have to install a truck's accessory spacer alignment..right? And with that brings up clearance issues with the steering box. If i run the smaller cts ps pulley with a 600 steering box everything should clear?
I would like to keep my engine's vvt system. Which means i would have to install a truck's accessory spacer alignment..right? And with that brings up clearance issues with the steering box. If i run the smaller cts ps pulley with a 600 steering box everything should clear?