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Old 07-13-2017, 10:48 AM
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Does the GM muscle car oil pan work well? I'm not looking to lower my car to the ground. The GM is 8" deep, the Holley is 5.46" deep and the BRP is 7.5". Looking at all 3 however the Holley doesnt come as a complete kit like the others and requires GM parts etc. My car is a 67 Firebird Covert. Installing an L33, 4L60e eventually.
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No, it hangs dangerously low ( I had it in my car ). The f body pan would need to be notched for a first gen. My f body pan is notched only because my engine sits just a bit forward and the pan would be real close to crossmember. I can pm you who notched my pain and lengthened the pickup tube. If you are set on using the muscle car (LH8/hummer H3), I'd build something around it to protect it.

You may want to also look at the cts-v pan. It hangs a little lower than the fbody but not as much as the LH8/H3/muscle car pan.
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Save yourself a lot of trouble and look at the Holley LS swap system. The only oil pan to be able to get the engine low enough is the Holley 302-2.

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I built a 67 Camaro and used the GM Muscle Car Pan against my better judgement and ended up having to lift the engine to replace it with the Holley Pan. In short, save yourself the trouble and go with the Holley from the gate.
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Only problem with the Holley pan is it is not clearance for a stroker !

It can be modified .
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I have BRP mounts which set the motor pretty high, and the GM muscle car pan. Here's a pic of the situation. I'm gonna go with it for now, but I may regret it.


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Not sure what you mean,Holley 302-2 comes with pan,pickup and tray,all you need are the gasket and bolts which you should already have.
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The Mast Motorsports pan also allows for the motor to be set low in the front - about 3/4" lower than the Holley 302-1.
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The Holley pan is available either alone or with all the goodies mentioned above. There is a choice...
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
The Holley pan is available either alone or with all the goodies mentioned above. There is a choice...
Curious, where did you see just the pan? Everywhere I've looked its the pan, pick up tube and windage tray.
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Hmmm.....on my crate LS3, the windage tray is part of the motor - was there with the GM pan and is attached to the bottom of the motor. The Holley 302-1 I bought came with pan, drain plug, pickup tube and o-ring, and BAFFLE (to keep oil around the pickup).
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Originally Posted by Michael Yount
The Holley 302-1 I bought came with pan, drain plug, pickup tube and o-ring, and BAFFLE (to keep oil around the pickup).
My bad, I meant baffle that goes in the pan , not windage tray. But I still haven't see anywhere to buy just the pan itself.
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Originally Posted by tracetrimble
I have BRP mounts which set the motor pretty high, and the GM muscle car pan. Here's a pic of the situation. I'm gonna go with it for now, but I may regret it.
That looks just as low as mine was (I also have the BRP mounts). I drove 2 years with mine that way (4000 miles).
I forgot about the Holley pans. They were not available when I swapped my pans. I had the fbody pan, I just paid to have it notched. Looking at the 2 Holley pan dimensions (302-1 302-2), both would have cleared my crossmember. Holley has done some great things for the LS swap people the last few years.
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Originally Posted by Michael Yount
The Mast Motorsports pan also allows for the motor to be set low in the front - about 3/4" lower than the Holley 302-1.
The 302-2 was designed for just the F-body. No reason to even consider a 302-1 for this swap.
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Have you considered an aftermarket subframe? I know it is a lot of coin, but it allows you to use the 4th Gen Fbody oil pan, front drive and stock AC compressor location. It also lets you upgrade your brakes. Installation is pretty easy and lets you get to areas of the body for rust repair that are usually covered. GIve it a thought.
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Originally Posted by 1973 STEP A SIDE
Only problem with the Holley pan is it is not clearance for a stroker !

It can be modified .
This will soon not be the case with the coming 302-3 Holley pan...stroker clearance up to 4" and turbo drain-back ports along with that capability. If fits every application the 302-2 fits and then some.
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I have it on mine as well. It hangs as low as the headers.
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Originally Posted by Toddoky
This will soon not be the case with the coming 302-3 Holley pan...stroker clearance up to 4" and turbo drain-back ports along with that capability. If fits every application the 302-2 fits and then some.
Todd,

Do you have a release date for the 302-3 oil pan? Sometime within 6 months will work very well with my next swap.
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Todd,

Do you have a release date for the 302-3 oil pan? Sometime within 6 months will work very well with my next swap.
I don't have a release date to report at the moment, but it will definitely be within the next six months.
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Originally Posted by Toddoky
This will soon not be the case with the coming 302-3 Holley pan...stroker clearance up to 4" and turbo drain-back ports along with that capability. If fits every application the 302-2 fits and then some.
Whoa, that's awesome!


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