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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 11:32 AM
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I was reading my May issue of Car Craft and under Speed Parts came across a great new option for fuel systems for our conversions. Holley makes a new EFI conversion fuel tank module that drops into the existing tank without needing baffles. It uses their Hydramat to pick up fuel without needing any kind of baffling. The module includes a 255-lph pump and regulator set for 58 psi. It said retail pricing of $360 and currently has availability for GM A-bodies and 1st/2nd gen F-bodies with more coming.
I am interested to hear how these things work. Too late for me since I already have the Tanks Inc setup but for those just starting the swap, this saves some coin and hassle.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 11:37 AM
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The whole key is the hydromat, It pretty much eliminates the need for a bucket under the pump. It's proven to work very well so this should be a good option for some.
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 07:46 PM
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I started a new post in the fuel injection part of this site yesterday asking if anyone has any feedback on it. I was on the phone with a Holley tech yesterday verifying that no return line is needed. I will be ordering one first thing in the morning to complete my LS1 swap into my 1968 Camaro RS convertible When they first advertised them back in November they listed them as $269 on sale. I should have bought one then. Now, they are $329. I will post some pics and feedback when I receive mine.

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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Aston Tibs
... that drops into the existing tank without needing baffles.
That pretty much describes a stock fuel bucket.

The hydramat is supposed to work quite well but keep in mind Holley says it needs to be replaced from time to time. A rather expensive fuel filter IMO.

The stock fuel buckets have check valves and siphon pumps that keep the bucket full when the rest of the tank is dry. Really it is vastly superior to tank baffles and is all one really needs. The hydramat has a huge advantage that you can just stuff it into a tank without the welding or cutting needed to install a fuel bucket. this might be the better option depending on your situation.
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 09:39 AM
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Interested to see the feedback on this
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
That pretty much describes a stock fuel bucket.

The hydramat is supposed to work quite well but keep in mind Holley says it needs to be replaced from time to time. A rather expensive fuel filter IMO.

The stock fuel buckets have check valves and siphon pumps that keep the bucket full when the rest of the tank is dry. Really it is vastly superior to tank baffles and is all one really needs. The hydramat has a huge advantage that you can just stuff it into a tank without the welding or cutting needed to install a fuel bucket. this might be the better option depending on your situation.
I can't see the need to replace the hydramat, unless you are pouring dirty fuel in your tank I would bet it will last longer than your fuel pump.
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 09:46 PM
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The ethanol in modern gas degrades just about everything it touches...
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The ethanol in modern gas degrades just about everything it touches...
I have a feeling Holley has accounted for that.
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Old Feb 24, 2018 | 08:06 AM
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I can't see the need to replace the hydramat, unless you are pouring dirty fuel in your tank I would bet it will last longer than your fuel pump.
You might want to contact Holley and tell them to take it out of their instruction sheets than.


Originally Posted by http://documents.holley.com/199r10782rev7.pdf
HYDRAMAT FILTER LIFE EXPECTANCY
The HydraMat filtration performance will provide 5 - 10 years or more depending on the fuel type, how clean your fuel system is, how much you drive your car, and how aggressively the car is used.
Severe duty applications should inspect the filter at regular intervals to ensure the Hydramat is not restricted by debris.
The Hydramat is not cleanable.

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Old Feb 24, 2018 | 05:21 PM
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I just wonder if the mat becomes gummy after a few years ( or 5-10 yrs) of being in gas.
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Old Feb 24, 2018 | 09:46 PM
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I really like this, I kept trying to think about what I was going to do for my Skylark but I think I know now.

Only issue is once I turbo the thing it's not going to flow enough so I'll need to do it all over.
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 08:11 PM
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I just saw the install video on the Holley site; this is a game-changer for those who only need 255LPH (likely most of us). SUPER easy install, with NO tank surgery.
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
I just saw the install video on the Holley site; this is a game-changer for those who only need 255LPH (likely most of us). SUPER easy install, with NO tank surgery.
This would be good for most NA LS swaps I am guessing. That's why I might just buy one then figure out what I need to do to add more fuel for the turbo at a later date.
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 08:24 PM
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Wouldn't 255LPH take you into the lower end of turbo territory? Just wondering if you might even need to change, if not running too much hairdryer...
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 08:40 PM
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It likely would, but once I go turbo I'm going to go stupid and I have a very very heavy foot.
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 67Lark
It likely would, but once I go turbo I'm going to go stupid and I have a very very heavy foot.
I feel your pain... lol I know what ya mean, friend!
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
That pretty much describes a stock fuel bucket.

The hydramat is supposed to work quite well but keep in mind Holley says it needs to be replaced from time to time. A rather expensive fuel filter IMO.

The stock fuel buckets have check valves and siphon pumps that keep the bucket full when the rest of the tank is dry. Really it is vastly superior to tank baffles and is all one really needs. The hydramat has a huge advantage that you can just stuff it into a tank without the welding or cutting needed to install a fuel bucket. this might be the better option depending on your situation.
Maybe I am biased, but I like my approach using a 5th gen Camaro fuel pump assembly better than the Holley alternative. I realize that not everyone has a welder and fabrication skills though.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...camaro-tank.html
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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 08:20 PM
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I received my Holley 12-300 fuel pump on a stick yesterday and installed it in my gas tank. Did it just like the video on the Holley site. Easy peasy. Used my original hard line that was already on the car. Wired the relay in and KAPOW it fired up on the first try. Granted, I haven't driven my car yet as that was the first time I started the motor. But I am well satisfied with the product and Holley in general. It shipped to me in 3 days and was super easy to install. I hope to drive my car within the week and I'll post some more. I need to rig up an oil pressure gauge and I just can't seem to understand how I do that. I've read all the posts I can consume without being overwhelmed and still don't know if I need to drill the plate by the oil filter or screw something into the oil pressure sender hole behind the intake. My original gauge had a nylon line running to the block on the old carbed 350. They are 1967 camaro original console gauges and have no electrical tab on the back, only a place for the oil line to hook up.
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Super Chevy article:

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/add...ick-up-system/
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 01:33 PM
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Good article! Thanks for the link!
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