Swaps just got way easier...Holley Terminator X
#621
I got the system in 2010, and first ecm "fried" due to what was known as "fly-back" voltage. Came around a corner, floored it and POOF....ecm was dead. Known common issue. Wasn't even boosted at the time. 2nd ecm would not connect to laptop via USB for whatever reason, could only communicate with the CAN wiring thankfully (was able to get by with the 3.5" touchscreen). Since then its been mostly OK.
#622
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I got the system in 2010, and first ecm "fried" due to what was known as "fly-back" voltage. Came around a corner, floored it and POOF....ecm was dead. Known common issue. Wasn't even boosted at the time. 2nd ecm would not connect to laptop via USB for whatever reason, could only communicate with the CAN wiring thankfully (was able to get by with the 3.5" touchscreen). Since then its been mostly OK.
Andrew
#623
Fly back voltage is a legitimate concern and not a "known issue." It is a result of poor wiring practices and will potentially damage any ECU. OEMs take great care to mitigate this from happening by isolating devices, that can generate flyback voltage, with relays.
Andrew
Andrew
There was an known internal design/manufacturing issue with the ECM period which has since been rectified and handled by Holley properly.
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Things just got a little more interesting for the Terminator X users:
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-165
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-166
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-165
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-166
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grocerygetter83 (04-22-2021)
#626
Things just got a little more interesting for the Terminator X users:
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-165
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-166
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-165
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel.../parts/554-166
#627
#628
1/5? The 6.86 pro dash was under $800 not too long ago, I couldn't pass it up at that price. But I agree not everyone wants the dash, but I like it a lot more than the racepaks, holley 7.5, and other related offerings.
#629
For the C10, I like traditional gauge look more than screens in old cars. Dakota digital makes a nice cluster that uses a BIM to interface directly with the terminator. I'll report back on how well i like it when they finally start delivering back ordered parts (Dakota Digital).
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G Atsma (04-01-2021)
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True i was comparing it to the 12" screen which is about $1500 last i checked. I have a racepak in my camaro and agree, the holley offerigns look better. I'll change mine up eventually but i dont want the 6.86, i want the 12 if i did digital and it doesn't fit in a 69 dash easily.
For the C10, I like traditional gauge look more than screens in old cars. Dakota digital makes a nice cluster that uses a BIM to interface directly with the terminator. I'll report back on how well i like it when they finally start delivering back ordered parts (Dakota Digital).
For the C10, I like traditional gauge look more than screens in old cars. Dakota digital makes a nice cluster that uses a BIM to interface directly with the terminator. I'll report back on how well i like it when they finally start delivering back ordered parts (Dakota Digital).
This is my current dash layout:
The fuel level will go in the center where the AF ratio gauge currently lives.
Andrew
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will69camaro (04-01-2021)
#631
That'll work well and functionality to run stereo off that without a head unit is nice. I have a bluetooth module in the C10 currently, and wishing they hadn't cut the dash for a radio...
C10 dash looks like this:
C10 dash looks like this:
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Project GatTagO (04-01-2021)
#632
the outputs on the pro dash is only usable with the on screen buttons, the ecm cant control them and you cant trigger them with any other inputs, so no pwm, no fan control or automation. (when using with a termX, maybe different with dominator?)
#633
Not sure what you are trying to do, but you I can trigger logging from the screen and use the I/O's from the screen in the advanced tables which can most certainly do PWM boost control, rev limiters, traction control, etc in Term X.
#634
i have a terminator x with 6.86 pro dash and i havent found a way to control the outputs on the dash any way except the on screen buttons. I also have not found a way to 'read' those buttons in the ecu. theres a youtube video showing how to do that with a dominator but when in terminator x mode the screen doesnt seem to allow it. when i make a virtual switch the drop down only gives the options for my named SSRs, not the 10 or so virtual switches. those named ssrs do not show up anywhere in the pc software that i can find. ive had one of them named since i got the dash and first started playing with it. that output shows up in the datalogs i make with the dash, i just cant find a way to use them in the tune.
holley documentation doesnt keep up with the software features either, so if theres a way to do it, id love to take advantage of it.
to be clear, i am only referring to the on board SSRs. i can see all the inputs, i use the gps speed for my boost control, i just cant find how to use the outputs. i really only need one more. im sure its something stupid and i wont even need that can io box i ordered
holley documentation doesnt keep up with the software features either, so if theres a way to do it, id love to take advantage of it.
to be clear, i am only referring to the on board SSRs. i can see all the inputs, i use the gps speed for my boost control, i just cant find how to use the outputs. i really only need one more. im sure its something stupid and i wont even need that can io box i ordered
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Terminator X V2 build 70 was just released and has support for the I/O module:
https://www.holley.com/support/fuel_...r_x_and_x_max/
Andrew
https://www.holley.com/support/fuel_...r_x_and_x_max/
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will69camaro (04-21-2021)
#638
i am just getting started on a race car build and have decided to go with drive by wire. It reduces the holes i need in the firewall, will simplify the motor by eliminating the cable which is a hassle to connect and remove, and the wiring will all still have to go to the pedal (brake and clutch switches) and tb anyway so it seems like a no brainer now that the tech/hardware is as good as it is these days.
#640
i am just getting started on a race car build and have decided to go with drive by wire. It reduces the holes i need in the firewall, will simplify the motor by eliminating the cable which is a hassle to connect and remove, and the wiring will all still have to go to the pedal (brake and clutch switches) and tb anyway so it seems like a no brainer now that the tech/hardware is as good as it is these days.