Supradupra!
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Supradupra!
I just got ahold of a 95 silver metallic supra from one of my uncles buddies.its a n/a version 5 speed. it threw a rod and blew head gasket, the dude was spraying.anyways doesnt want it anymoreand he owed my uncle some cash and gave him the car instead,my uncle is hookin me up since i built a motor for him recently.he hates import f&f japcrap anyway.should be arriving from border town in a few days. any opinions on build? ls1 of course i have a 6.0 and 5.3 and al ls1 laying around.
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Honestly, you should stick with doing a turbo motor swap, those things are lethal when setup right. If not, the 5.3 might be a better choice depending on how much weight you can save. Weigh the stock motor, then select your motor based on weight, so the car will still handle like stock as far as weight ratio. Good luck, post some pics when you get it.
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thanx for the input.preciate it,but as far as using a 2jz vs. lsx its just more convenient for me because i have some ls partsmy current motor is a 335 ci 9.0:1 forged with 5.3 heads that are ported and polished ihave a to4b with big fmic that i was goin to use in an 82 camaro.will post pics when i get the car. thanx for the opinions keep em comin i love sleepers i want 2 bild it to smoke
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so wait a second. you want to put a 5.3 LS motor in a supra chassis?
now its one thing for the RX7 guys to do this swap, because the stock rotaries in those cars are crapola, but theres nothing wrong with a supra motor. if you want it to haul ***, and you want to do a motor swap, why not just pick up a 2JZGTE. you can get them turn key for around $3000. you can easily get 500 hp or more to the wheels with stock twins, stock fuel system etc.
there are even turbo kits available for the stock NA motor that make over 400 to the wheels.
unless you just have more money than you know what to do with, and are dead set on the dare to be different category, i would seriously look into staying with the 2JZ platform, they are awesome motors, with awesome potential.
and for your "stuck in the 60's" ignorant uncle, show him this. 1000 hp - stock motor.
http://www.turboimports.com/swst88supra.html
whats to hate about that?
now its one thing for the RX7 guys to do this swap, because the stock rotaries in those cars are crapola, but theres nothing wrong with a supra motor. if you want it to haul ***, and you want to do a motor swap, why not just pick up a 2JZGTE. you can get them turn key for around $3000. you can easily get 500 hp or more to the wheels with stock twins, stock fuel system etc.
there are even turbo kits available for the stock NA motor that make over 400 to the wheels.
unless you just have more money than you know what to do with, and are dead set on the dare to be different category, i would seriously look into staying with the 2JZ platform, they are awesome motors, with awesome potential.
and for your "stuck in the 60's" ignorant uncle, show him this. 1000 hp - stock motor.
http://www.turboimports.com/swst88supra.html
whats to hate about that?
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Sell the body to a ricer and build something else, or replace the 2JZ with a new one and turbocharge it. I have 1 buddy with a 9 second '94 TT and another with a 10 second 2JZ-GTE powered Lexus SC300. Those motors are simply ridiculous, and the Supra is probably the one car on earth that could be considered "downgraded" after an LSx swap.
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Not to start a huge LS1>Supra argument here, but I wanted to ask why that 1000hp supra only ran high 9's?
I have a friend in the low 9's with WAY less power... is it just the powerband on the motor or is it harder to make the supra chassis hook?
I have a friend in the low 9's with WAY less power... is it just the powerband on the motor or is it harder to make the supra chassis hook?
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Originally Posted by CamTom12
Not to start a huge LS1>Supra argument here, but I wanted to ask why that 1000hp supra only ran high 9's?
I have a friend in the low 9's with WAY less power... is it just the powerband on the motor or is it harder to make the supra chassis hook?
I have a friend in the low 9's with WAY less power... is it just the powerband on the motor or is it harder to make the supra chassis hook?
well i agree that that is the million dollar question for supra owners. although the near 160 mph trap speed is impressive, everyone seems to have their own excuse as to why the et's dont quite match. maybe the independent rear suspension...3600 lbs...etc. the 6 speed cars seem to require a bit of finesse off the line. you have an engine/turbo combo that has a hp/tq curve that looks more like mt everest on paper, usually not reaching the meat of the band till 6500 rpm, and only lasting untill 8500 or so.
my point was that you can get an awesome real world vehicle with the parts it came with, much easier and cheaper than an obscure, intensive engine swap.
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yes i do understand that the 2jz is a kickass motorwhen its blowed up with up to 4 atmosphere,but i own and build ls motors,being a sam graduate and all as for my 60's loving uncle he has put many tand tt supras to bed, being his 02 ram air " only" traps at 139mph,withhis kwikest time bein 9.92 at san antonio on mt et streets. on only 18 psi via an f1 procharger, on a 408 his nephew built for him anyways thanx for the replies 95 SILVER METALLIC SUPRA ! FOR SALE! CHEAP (PS MY UNCLE MAKES LESS A 1000HP) PROCHARGER NOT EVEN HUFFING HARD YET
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So are you seriously selling the supra?? I might be interested in it, shoot me an email with some pics. As for the supras monster dyno numbers, yes, they are more of a peak power not a real powerband number like our cars will have when turbo'd. That is why they are highway killers, you only use 4th-6th in the upper rpms... There is nothing like big V8 torque though, especially combined with high HP numbers....
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why spend the extra cash to buy a 2JZ, modify it, and tune it, when you have a perfectly good smallblock ready to be turbo'd? You can easily match the potential of the 2JZ for a smaller investment, whether you're looking for 500hp or 800hp-especially in your situation when you have much of it readily available. Plus much more of the powerband will be usable. Now that i've started paying attention and see that you are selling it, forget it!
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The 335ci Motor That I 1.machined(align Honed-decked-bored .020/honed .010=.030 Bore)from A 6.0 Iron Block 2. Built With Forged Pistons/h-beams 4.8l 3.28 Stroke Nitrited Crank To Equal 335 Ci With A 9:1 C.r. Equals Destroked Motor Built For Kwik Revvin And Hi Boost. Ialso Removed Rocker Boss From My Ls1 Heads,cartridge Rolled The Intake Ports And Did A Valve Job.flow Better Than Stock. Matched To A 4, In Bore Size And Shaped, Polished Chambers, Deshrouded The Valves. So This Motor Will Make Power.i Plan To Eventually Spin To About 7000 Rpm In The End. Can Post Pics Soon. Just My Motor Preference Thanx For Taking The Time To Read
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I'd definitely drop an LS1 in there, turbocharged of course. Those Supra guys would be all excited how the new "prodigy" supra is hanging the tires out of the hole and running great times -- but sounds "really funny"
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You got the car for nothing, you have a 5.3 "laying around", you know your way around a toolbox. I think this is called a "no brainer".
From the responses here I would do it for no other reason than to **** the Supra guys off. (I'm cranky, it's Monday)
From the responses here I would do it for no other reason than to **** the Supra guys off. (I'm cranky, it's Monday)
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Go for the 5.3 Turbo set up i guarantee you can make 500 hp easy and unlike the 2gayzgt motor or whatever you won't have a dyno sheet that looks like "Mt. Everest" as somebody mentioned, also you won't become one of the infamous Supra drivers who constantly find themselves saying "wanna race from a roll?" Not to mention you can make that 500 hp without running 22 pounds of boost or more. Its always cool to have something unique and why not put the engine you have lying around to good use?