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Old 01-02-2006, 06:00 PM
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Id like to run a push button starter for my conversion. Where can I find a proper ignition push button?

How should I wire it up, I assume I need some sort of a toggle/keyed switch also to turn the power to the computer/fuel pump etc?
Old 01-02-2006, 06:17 PM
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the push button start only starts the starter motor. you turn your key to the on position then push the button. thats how i always thought it was done
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Found this.. looks like you need to do a relay setup between the normal "on" and the starter relay...
good luck
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Thats a good drawing. It would be nice to have a safety feature to where you can't start the engine if it is already running. Maybe a voltage sensing circuit tied to the ground of the relay. That way if voltage was ever over 12V it would prevent the starter circuit from working.

Or to be really creative maybe have the push-button stop the engine as well, like a C6.
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As you know, there are two seperate circuits involved in the starting of an automobile. One is the starter control circuit and the other is the ignition system. Both are typically ground side relay controlled. Or in the case of the LS1, the ignition is computer controlled. Everyone in this thread are pushing you in the right direction. So, put a switch and relay inline with the starter controll circuit, and leave the key to controll the ignition on/off.
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If you are interested in a push to start and stop, I am working on a way to do it.
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Here's how I figured it would be done: Toggle switch for ignition and momentary push button for start. Switch on, push button... VROOM!! Flip off the toggle switch to shut it down.
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Originally Posted by Scooter70
Here's how I figured it would be done: Toggle switch for ignition and momentary push button for start. Switch on, push button... VROOM!! Flip off the toggle switch to shut it down.
That's how race cars do it.
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Here's how I figured it would be done: Toggle switch for ignition and momentary push button for start. Switch on, push button... VROOM!! Flip off the toggle switch to shut it down.
this is what I was thinking at first however the push button off would be kind of cool too.
A safety feature to prevent "re-starting" the engine would be nice too. KEep em coming guys!
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Hey 70LS1 I dont know about anyone else....but I would love to have a push to start and stop button for my project. If you come up with anything please let me know....I have been looking for this for a while now. Thanks
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If you figured out how to do push to start / push to stop, that would probably be a good safety against starting an engine that is already running.

I'd suggest a second relay that controls "ignition" power and is a master control for the "starter" relay (power for the "starter" relay feeds through the "ignition" relay)

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OK, I figured it out. It uses 2 relays one for IGN and one for the starter solenoid and a J-K Flip Flop. I plan on using a key to arm the IGN relay, probably hide it in the ash tray or under the seat or something like that. When you push and hold the button the car will crank and start. When you push the button again it will kill the IGN relay. I am going to check out Radio Shack for parts availability and will have a drawing later this week.
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OK, I figured it out. It uses 2 relays one for IGN and one for the starter solenoid and a J-K Flip Flop. I plan on using a key to arm the IGN relay, probably hide it in the ash tray or under the seat or something like that. When you push and hold the button the car will crank and start. When you push the button again it will kill the IGN relay. I am going to check out Radio Shack for parts availability and will have a drawing later this week.
thanks
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Originally Posted by Scooter70
Here's how I figured it would be done: Toggle switch for ignition and momentary push button for start. Switch on, push button... VROOM!! Flip off the toggle switch to shut it down.
My '68 Camaro was set up that way (minus the push button).....it was more of a "theft deterrent" deal then anything else......but then again, it was the 80's. Only diff was you flicked the toggle switch, turned the key to start it and when you wanted to shut it off, you flicked the switch back off.......you could actually turn the key off and take the key out of the car and it would still run so long as the switch was still "on".
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i'm game for the push stuff
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Here is something I ran into while doing Ultima research.....

http://www.gkstarter.com/

push button start and then it changes into another function.
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using a normal pushbutton(probably the S2000 one), you could have a hidden toggle to switch from start to kill function. should be rather simple that way
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kit-C...spagenameZWDVW

thats the one Im looking at getting..

EDIT: KInd of concerned it may look ricey though???? MAybe a nice billet one would be better?


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hmmmm lookin at that one also...lol
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I think it looks nice. On my car there is a button on the dash to turn off the seat belt warning light. I plan on wiring it up to that. Nice and stealthy.

jimmyp: that switch will still work with my push to start and stop design.


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