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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Ok, I have installed a Pontiac engine w/MPFI custom injection system in my TA. Originally a LT car, but we had to use a 90 Corvette OBD1 computer. The install looks factory, so much so that Die-Hard Pontiac people mistake it for a LT/LS car, but my problem is I haven't yet figured out how to make the factory Speedometer and Tach work. I know that the LT was crank-triggered and the siginal is probabbly voltage going to instrument cluster. Any ideas how to convert since we are using a lead from the coil? Speedometer I think is 4000/pulses in the LT car and also in the Corvette computer, but our initial attempt to connect didn't seem to work. Any ideas?
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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What transmission are you using? "LT" car? As in LT1 F-Body?
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Sorry, Kind of important info! 1994 TA, reskinned to 2002 body panels. T56 transmission. Unfortunately, we began this conversion in 2001, and back then there were not many options on controling a non-stock MPFI. The best we could find then was the 1990 OBDI computer. Today we would have used the OBDII and all the nagging little problems would be non-issues.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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LT1 cluster of LS1 cluster and what year?
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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I have a '96 LT1 in the car now and a 2000 LS1 cluster if needed, whichever one I can get to work.
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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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I checked into the clusters and the 2000 one will not work, it uses serial data for the tach signal which would be a pain to replicate.

The 1996 one looks like it would be relatively easy to hook up and depending on what kind of ignition system you have it may be a direct wire up. I would need a wiring diagram for it to be able to figure out for sure. I found 2 wiring diagrams for a 95, one was for a z28 and the other a formula and the pins were in different positions, so I don`t want to make a recommendation until I see a wiring diagram for a 96.

Anyone have a wiring diagram for a 96 TA dash cluster?
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oh wait! a 98+ tach/cluster wont work on my 95 LT1 is the understanding that I have made from your previous post! No way at all? I believe my friend over at GM has the diagram you need, ill get it for you in the AM
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Based on the diagrams that I was able to find I don`t think the 98+ dash cluster will work. At least not in a direct plug in way, I`m sure that someone out there could make a convertor to convert your tach signal into a serial data signal so that the dash would work, but I don`t know of one that is currently available right now.
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 06:43 PM
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Might be time to install aftermarket gauges...
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Hello OldSchool! You have a nice looking Formula. Please do not misunderstand, the LS platform is an unbelieveable powerplant, we have one in a '66 Chevy II wagon. But in my opinion, it has no place in a rare Pontiac. For the same reason, aftermarket gauges have no place in a showcar that was built to look like a stock-appearing TA. We used Autometer gauges in a custom dash cluster while testing, but once the car was completed and ready to show they had to go.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 01:54 AM
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Hello OldSchool! You have a nice looking Formula. Please do not misunderstand, the LS platform is an unbelieveable powerplant, we have one in a '66 Chevy II wagon. But in my opinion, it has no place in a rare Pontiac. For the same reason, aftermarket gauges have no place in a showcar that was built to look like a stock-appearing TA. We used Autometer gauges in a custom dash cluster while testing, but once the car was completed and ready to show they had to go.
Didn't know it was a show car. As for the better motor in every single possible conceivable way in my car, it seems to fit quite nicely. It wasn't a numbers matching car when I got it 7 years ago, as it sat wrecked and stripped waiting to be demo derbied, and it wasn't an original car at any point when it had a modded 400/2004R in it either. I have no desire to drive an ill handling, gas guzzling, 235 horsepower, burnt orange car with lousy seats and an even lousier sound system to satisfy someone else. If its truly that rare or desirable, if in the unlikely event that I sell it someday, maybe someone will return it to stock and keep it in a garage because they are afraid to blow up one of the last Pontiac blocks around. Until that day, I'm going to continue improving it, daily driving it, racing it, and driving it hard as it was originally intened to be - by Pontiac.

Besides, it's worth more money now.
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