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Hi all, i have a question. I just bought an GM Crate LS3 and I did all my mock up using a C5 Z06 batwing oil pan.
My question is, which windage tray, dipstick, and dipstick tube should i use? Sorry I'm not as versed on LS motors as I am on Nissan stuff, and this is my first swap into my 350Z. Thanks in advance.
My question is, which windage tray, dipstick, and dipstick tube should i use? Sorry I'm not as versed on LS motors as I am on Nissan stuff, and this is my first swap into my 350Z. Thanks in advance.
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Hi all, i have a question. I just bought an GM Crate LS3 and I did all my mock up using a C5 Z06 batwing oil pan.
My question is, which windage tray, dipstick, and dipstick tube should i use? Sorry I'm not as versed on LS motors as I am on Nissan stuff, and this is my first swap into my 350Z. Thanks in advance.
My question is, which windage tray, dipstick, and dipstick tube should i use? Sorry I'm not as versed on LS motors as I am on Nissan stuff, and this is my first swap into my 350Z. Thanks in advance.
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So, it appears to me that the Mast pan is still the best option for 64-67 GM A-bodies. Uses stock full length windage tray and has the most front end clearance. Am I missing anything here?
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I currently have a truck pan on my 1978 C20/LS1 swap, and it hangs too low. I want to lower the front more, but need to do the pan.
I have seen mention in one of the conversions, but cant find what pan doesnt hang down as low. May have been the Holley pan.
Help??? And, being in Australia, our options are limited to a point.
I have seen mention in one of the conversions, but cant find what pan doesnt hang down as low. May have been the Holley pan.
Help??? And, being in Australia, our options are limited to a point.
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Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the LS4 Oil Pan? I've read through all 33 pages on here and done a few searches and a couple of people have asked but I've only seen people recommend using one of the other LS pans without ever giving the dimensions for the LS4 pan.
The reason I ask is they're about 1/4 of the cost of the F-Body pans and it'll be used for a 5.3 swap in to my K5 Blazer so I won't have the same low to the ground clearance issues that other's have run in to. The place that I may run in to issues with is if it'll fit above the crossmember so I'm hoping to get some dimensions to try and verify it'll work for what I'm doing.
I've seen a couple of guys doing the same swap over on coloradok5.com and the 5.3 truck oil pan sits about 1" above the front axle yoke on stock height rigs which is a way too close for my comfort level lol.
The reason I ask is they're about 1/4 of the cost of the F-Body pans and it'll be used for a 5.3 swap in to my K5 Blazer so I won't have the same low to the ground clearance issues that other's have run in to. The place that I may run in to issues with is if it'll fit above the crossmember so I'm hoping to get some dimensions to try and verify it'll work for what I'm doing.
I've seen a couple of guys doing the same swap over on coloradok5.com and the 5.3 truck oil pan sits about 1" above the front axle yoke on stock height rigs which is a way too close for my comfort level lol.
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I tried searching both the forum and thread and couldn't find anything. For an LS1 Fbody, I need the bolt that fastens the dipstick tube to the cylinder head (part number or dimensions please) as well part numbers/dimensions on the dipstick and dipstick tube orings. Does anyone have this information? Thank you.
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Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the LS4 Oil Pan? I've read through all 33 pages on here and done a few searches and a couple of people have asked but I've only seen people recommend using one of the other LS pans without ever giving the dimensions for the LS4 pan.
Thanks again fieroguru
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After reading posts with people having success on the Holley pans, I pulled the trigger and bought one. I was expecting top notch machining and was less than impressed with what arrived. First...made in China. You have got to be kidding me, right? For the money that I shelled out on this pan, I would have expected more. Second, the machining on the oil filter area was poor. Nicks in the gasket surface and the threading on the oil filter adapter is terrible. It almost looks like someone was doing some clean up work after the machining process and the die grinder got away from him (or her). Third, the sand casting is pretty crude. I am hoping for my sake that all of the sand was knocked out of the part when they pulled it out of the casting sand. Forth, if you use this pan, you have got to inspect every inch of it for metal debris. I found several pieces of junk in the bolt holes and the oil filter cavity. The trap door baffle quality is decent. Why such a discrepancy in the different parts.
I am thankful that I got this from Summit because they really take care of their customers. One call and they are sending out a new one and issuing a call tag for the one that I have sitting here.
A note to Holley: If you want to charge top dollar for your pans, please do all of us a favor and provide something that is representative of a top dollar product. Better machining and casting is a bonus. AND, if it costs $50 more to have a $300 part made in the states, please do so. I am hoping that there
I am thankful that I got this from Summit because they really take care of their customers. One call and they are sending out a new one and issuing a call tag for the one that I have sitting here.
A note to Holley: If you want to charge top dollar for your pans, please do all of us a favor and provide something that is representative of a top dollar product. Better machining and casting is a bonus. AND, if it costs $50 more to have a $300 part made in the states, please do so. I am hoping that there
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After reading posts with people having success on the Holley pans, I pulled the trigger and bought one. I was expecting top notch machining and was less than impressed with what arrived. First...made in China. You have got to be kidding me, right? For the money that I shelled out on this pan, I would have expected more. Second, the machining on the oil filter area was poor. Nicks in the gasket surface and the threading on the oil filter adapter is terrible. It almost looks like someone was doing some clean up work after the machining process and the die grinder got away from him (or her). Third, the sand casting is pretty crude. I am hoping for my sake that all of the sand was knocked out of the part when they pulled it out of the casting sand. Forth, if you use this pan, you have got to inspect every inch of it for metal debris. I found several pieces of junk in the bolt holes and the oil filter cavity. The trap door baffle quality is decent. Why such a discrepancy in the different parts.
I am thankful that I got this from Summit because they really take care of their customers. One call and they are sending out a new one and issuing a call tag for the one that I have sitting here.
A note to Holley: If you want to charge top dollar for your pans, please do all of us a favor and provide something that is representative of a top dollar product. Better machining and casting is a bonus. AND, if it costs $50 more to have a $300 part made in the states, please do so. I am hoping that there
I am thankful that I got this from Summit because they really take care of their customers. One call and they are sending out a new one and issuing a call tag for the one that I have sitting here.
A note to Holley: If you want to charge top dollar for your pans, please do all of us a favor and provide something that is representative of a top dollar product. Better machining and casting is a bonus. AND, if it costs $50 more to have a $300 part made in the states, please do so. I am hoping that there
Nothing to do with pans, but I recently installed the Holley LS bracket kit for the alternator and PS pump. While not engineering perfectly, it it an excellent casting and looks OEM. By itself it has the Corvette spacing for the accessories, but has optional spacers for F-Body or Truck spacing. This Holley swap part I can recommend, the pan not.
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I got the replacement today and while it is better, there is a ton of room for improvement. I spent 30 minutes going into the oil passages and cleaning up the sharp edges and getting rid of general burrs, etc. At least this pan does not have a gouge on the oil filter gasket surface. I need to wash it out and get it ready to go on the motor. Besides the holley pan, the only other pan I was considering is the mast pan or the autokraft pan. The holley appears to be the best for clearance. More to follow.
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I understand that the Holley pan is the best fit in some applications. Just a shame that the casting is so rough; if they used the same casting system/company that they use for their very nice accessory bracket, it would be nice pan.
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Autokraft pan by far is the way to go. 400+ bux but in a G body they fit awesome with non set back plates and set back plates perfect. I heard many reviews on the holley pan which is why I went autokraft
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I went with a Moroso Pan not on the list....
Somebody please add it to the First post
It works with an LS Motor in a Fox Body...
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My K-Member is Dropped down a few inches in this picture to install the pan...
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Here is with the K-member back in place
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you will need to buy the Moroso Windage Tray (Moroso 22941) and Pickup (Moroso 24050) as well to use this pan.
I use a wix 51042 Oil Filter with the Pan...its a PF46 style filter
Somebody please add it to the First post
It works with an LS Motor in a Fox Body...
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/conversions-swaps/478563d1416970955-lsx-oil-pans-20142_part.jpg)
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/conversions-swaps/478564d1416970955-lsx-oil-pans-20142-43-oilfilter.jpg)
![](https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/conversions-swaps/478565d1416970955-lsx-oil-pans-20142_ins_part.jpg)
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My K-Member is Dropped down a few inches in this picture to install the pan...
![](http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h384/soundtechscott/LSx%20Mustang/20141111_183643__zpsfa70ad11.jpg)
Here is with the K-member back in place
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you will need to buy the Moroso Windage Tray (Moroso 22941) and Pickup (Moroso 24050) as well to use this pan.
I use a wix 51042 Oil Filter with the Pan...its a PF46 style filter
Originally Posted by Moroso
Wet Sump, 7 Quart Capacity, 6" deep
Fits: Early F-Body
For GM LS Series Engine Blocks
Fits ’68-’72 Nova, ’65-’72 Chevelle, ’67-’69 Camaro, Can also be used in additional applications; check dimensions for clearance
Oil pan has a thick precision laser cut steel rail and a clear zinc finish
Clears 4.125" stroke with most steel rods and can be used with Moroso Part No. 22941 Windage Tray
The sump is 8 3⁄8" long and 10 ¼" wide
Features a race proven diamond shape four trap door assembly and anti-slosh baffle that keeps oil contained in oil pump pick up area during road racing and drag racing
The 7 Quart Capacity moves the oil away from the rotating assembly for oil control and horsepower saving
Features a billet aluminum adapter that allows a 13⁄16” thread Moroso Part No. 22462 or O.E.M. oil filter to be mounted in the stock location, no need to run a remote oil filter
Included billet aluminum oil filter adapter has a ¼" N.P.T. sensor port
Uses stock dipstick
Fits: Early F-Body
For GM LS Series Engine Blocks
Fits ’68-’72 Nova, ’65-’72 Chevelle, ’67-’69 Camaro, Can also be used in additional applications; check dimensions for clearance
Oil pan has a thick precision laser cut steel rail and a clear zinc finish
Clears 4.125" stroke with most steel rods and can be used with Moroso Part No. 22941 Windage Tray
The sump is 8 3⁄8" long and 10 ¼" wide
Features a race proven diamond shape four trap door assembly and anti-slosh baffle that keeps oil contained in oil pump pick up area during road racing and drag racing
The 7 Quart Capacity moves the oil away from the rotating assembly for oil control and horsepower saving
Features a billet aluminum adapter that allows a 13⁄16” thread Moroso Part No. 22462 or O.E.M. oil filter to be mounted in the stock location, no need to run a remote oil filter
Included billet aluminum oil filter adapter has a ¼" N.P.T. sensor port
Uses stock dipstick
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I jumped on one of the original Holley pans when it came out. Maybe I was too excited about gaining a huge amount of ground clearance (used to have the LH8 pan) that i didn't notice issues with build quality... as a whole, I've been very happy with it.
I'm making the move from a 364 (stock bottom end) to a 408. Anyone running the original Holley pan with a 4" stroke? If so, are you using a windage tray? If so, which one and did it require any modification?
I'm making the move from a 364 (stock bottom end) to a 408. Anyone running the original Holley pan with a 4" stroke? If so, are you using a windage tray? If so, which one and did it require any modification?
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I jumped on one of the original Holley pans when it came out. Maybe I was too excited about gaining a huge amount of ground clearance (used to have the LH8 pan) that i didn't notice issues with build quality... as a whole, I've been very happy with it.
I'm making the move from a 364 (stock bottom end) to a 408. Anyone running the original Holley pan with a 4" stroke? If so, are you using a windage tray? If so, which one and did it require any modification?
I'm making the move from a 364 (stock bottom end) to a 408. Anyone running the original Holley pan with a 4" stroke? If so, are you using a windage tray? If so, which one and did it require any modification?
There have been comparisons made on this thread between the casting quality of the Holley pan and the OE pans, which is an apples to oranges comparison since the OE pans are cast using the permanent mold process and the Holley pans, like the Mast pan, are sand cast. The manufacturing and sales volume of aftermarket LS oil pans is a mere fraction of the volume of the OE pans, which makes using the permanent mold process a non-viable option. The benefit to using the sand casting process however is it allows for a higher degree of geometry flexibility, which allows for the 302-2 Holley pan to provide the same oil capacity as the OE F-body pan while having a sump length that is a few inches shorter for better chassis fitment.
Another previous poster compared the surface finish of the 302-2 pan to the Holley accessory drive brackets, which also cannot be reasonably done due to the fact that they too are made using a completely different process (die casting). Die castings are prone to porosity issues and require an extremely expensive tooling investment (more than a house in most states) that make them inappropriate for low volume production just like the permanent mold process.
I hope this information is useful to some readers trying to form a purchasing decision regarding the Holley LS oil pans based on a standpoint of quality.
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