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Old 07-31-2012, 08:34 AM
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CLEAN BORES!!!

Just drop that oil and slap some Clevite bearings in there and LS9 gaskets under the heads and put some boost to it!!!
Old 07-31-2012, 11:24 AM
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love this build and car but im not feeling the wheels
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Wait until the shop checks it out before you order pistons. 4.005 is done with hone only. If the crank journals and rods look good, you might consider getting a set of rod & main bearings, checking the clearances and putting it back together with all the stock stuff. That will save you a whole bunch of money in machining and component costs, but you really need to check things out thoroughly. It would suck to put this together and get bad oil pressure right off the bat.

If it were me especially with the turbo I would build it with forged stuff, but you can put those decisions off until you see what's rattling around in there.
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Originally Posted by SIC LSX
love this build and car but im not feeling the wheels
Oops! Sorry!!
Old 08-01-2012, 11:42 AM
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I like the wheels. Took a long time for me to get used to big, modern wheels on these cars, but now that I've warmed up to them, I really like them. Yours look great, especially with the new stance.
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light scoring on a couple of the bores. probably only needs a decent hone at the worst (since you'll have it out for the bearings anyway).

man, I don't know how you or clint do it. I'd go f'ing insane with the 'one step forward, two steps back' you two have been experiencing.

another thumbs-up here on the wheels. i've been trying to find something similar yet different so i won't be accused of copying you. any idea on the weights?
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Originally Posted by hookemdevils22
man, I don't know how you or clint do it. I'd go f'ing insane with the 'one step forward, two steps back' you two have been experiencing.
"It'll all be worth it" and "it's a labor of love, right?" are the two that I keep getting told and have to keep reminding myself of, haha.
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I just found this build today as I am new to this forum. This is a great build, love the car, love the engine, and the whole bit. I hope your rebuild goes well. I would think the LQ4 block to hold up under boost better than the LS2 alum. block, am I right?
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Originally Posted by frojoe
"It'll all be worth it" and "it's a labor of love, right?" are the two that I keep getting told and have to keep reminding myself of, haha.
LOL. I bet that gets said ALOT by boardmembers here. LOL
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I think that we try to fool ourselves into thinking the long hours working on these old cars and the tons of money spent on them will be worth it in the end but the reality is "they are never done". It is a disease that will consume every part of you. If you don't believe me ask my wife. 18 years and counting owning my car and it wil never be done. Do I really think its worth it, hell yeah! The smile on your face will say it all!
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Originally Posted by tsnow678
I think that we try to fool ourselves into thinking the long hours working on these old cars and the tons of money spent on them will be worth it in the end but the reality is "they are never done". It is a disease that will consume every part of you. If you don't believe me ask my wife. 18 years and counting owning my car and it wil never be done. Do I really think its worth it, hell yeah! The smile on your face will say it all!
AMEN to that!! They are NEVER done!! Just going thru iterations....
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I like to wash my car.
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Parts! Everything except pistons which were drop shipped from Wiseco so still waiting on those, and a couple little gaskets that I'll pick up from a local dealership.

I've attached my Excel master spreadsheet of all the research I've done for pricing on stock-displacement forged rotating assembly, in case anyone is interested.

I really lucked out and Summit had a limited sale on ARP head studs for $259 (down from $309) which is the cheapest I've found them, but appears the sale only lasted a couple days.. guess that was good timing!

Another helpful tip, for almost any GM replacement part, and a limited amount of aftermarket LS stuff, www.PacePerformance.com has the lowest GM parts by far, it's actually pretty crazy.. the cost of all the miscellaneous little plugs and sensors and gaskets can really add up.. so buy from Pace!



Parts:

- Texas Speed rotating assembly ($300 savings over buying parts individually): Wiseco 4.005" -11cc pistons, Callies Compstar H-beam con rods, Eagle forged crank, Clevite main&rod bearings
- ARP main & head studs
- LS9 head gaskets
- Patriot Gold springs
- Comp Cams hardened pushrods
- some Comp Cams break-in oil
- engine rebuild lube kit
- assorted gaskets

Total cost in parts to rebuild engine re-using LQ4 block: $3363

Shipping was $12 for Summit & $90 for Texas speed, bringing total parts cost to ~$3465.



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I've attached my Excel spreadsheet with all the part possibilities/part numbers/prices that I've researched, but the forum wouldn't let me upload an Excel .xls file, so if interested, save the file and rename the filetype from .TUN to .XLS
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Also, GMPARTSDIRECT.com has CHEAP parts too....LS9 head gaskets for less then $40 a piece!!!

You can order a brand new LS6 cam for $180!!!

And, LS7 lifters are cheap there too!

Just a note, you can get the ARP head studs from $200-$250...

I am putting another boost motor together right now and bought all of my parts at the locations listed above...
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Originally Posted by Chicago TDP
Also, GMPARTSDIRECT.com has CHEAP parts too....LS9 head gaskets for less then $40 a piece!!!

You can order a brand new LS6 cam for $180!!!

And, LS7 lifters are cheap there too!

Just a note, you can get the ARP head studs from $200-$250...

I am putting another boost motor together right now and bought all of my parts at the locations listed above...
Thanks! I had no idea.. I had heard of that site a while ago but totally forgot about it haha
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Originally Posted by frojoe
Another helpful tip, for almost any GM replacement part, and a limited amount of aftermarket LS stuff, www.PacePerformance.com has the lowest GM parts by far, it's actually pretty crazy.. the cost of all the miscellaneous little plugs and sensors and gaskets can really add up.. so buy from Pace!
Pace really does have GREAT prices on certain things. I bought a set of LS3 assembled heads for $330 a piece. I think they were actually less than or right at $300 a piece when I bought them, but they've since gone up to $330 a piece. I actually only needed one bare L92 head, but the LS3 heads are the same casting with better valves, and the L92 heads are actually $430 a piece currently. When I bought them though, the assembled LS3 head was actually like $90-100 less than a BARE L92 head! Thats crazy and makes no sense, but its a STEAL. You might consider looking into them actually since you have a 4.0 bore. Of course you'd need a L92 truck intake, but you can pick those up cheap.
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What about machine work?
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Squee, are you serious?! That's ridiculous of LS3 heads are $660 a pair. Just ludicrous.
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Originally Posted by hookemdevils22
Squee, are you serious?! That's ridiculous of LS3 heads are $660 a pair. Just ludicrous.
Edit: that is no joke. wow. Mind=blown


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