C5/ F-body street racing ......differences?
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C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? What is the differences in street racing ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
what the differences ? (97 c5 vs 2000 c5)
what the differences ? (97 c5 vs 2000 c5)
Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? What do you mean what are the differences? Performance, its the same really. The only main difference you would probably find is if its an M6 car vs an A4 car (if both are stock) and besides that would be driver experience.
Its hard to answer the question, when there isn't anything to go by really. But, between M6 vs A4 and driver experience, there isn't a huge difference between a Y2k C5 and a 97 C5. Tires maybe, and gear selection, but overall the experience and transmission type will be your two main differences (once again, only if both vehicles are stock) Now, if you're comparing mod vs mod, then you might have a problem. Unless both vehicles have the same stuff. Please elaborate on what you're wanting info on <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Its hard to answer the question, when there isn't anything to go by really. But, between M6 vs A4 and driver experience, there isn't a huge difference between a Y2k C5 and a 97 C5. Tires maybe, and gear selection, but overall the experience and transmission type will be your two main differences (once again, only if both vehicles are stock) Now, if you're comparing mod vs mod, then you might have a problem. Unless both vehicles have the same stuff. Please elaborate on what you're wanting info on <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? I mean ,
1) What is the differences between ( stageII heads and cam camaro m6 vs the same stageII heads and cam corvette m6 ) in Performance, <img border="0" alt="[kaboom]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" /> .
2) What is the differences between (97 corvette m6 vs 2000 corvette m6)if both are stock.
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1) What is the differences between ( stageII heads and cam camaro m6 vs the same stageII heads and cam corvette m6 ) in Performance, <img border="0" alt="[kaboom]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" /> .
2) What is the differences between (97 corvette m6 vs 2000 corvette m6)if both are stock.
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? 1) in power? nothing. Its the same motor. In launching? Maybe the solid rear axle of an fbody would be better from a stop by a little bit. If going from a rolling start, the c5 will have a little advantage as its more aerodynamic and a bit lighter.
2) Nothing. A 97 should be capable of the same power of a 00 once both are tuned.
<small>[ October 25, 2002, 02:49 AM: Message edited by: jmX ]</small>
2) Nothing. A 97 should be capable of the same power of a 00 once both are tuned.
<small>[ October 25, 2002, 02:49 AM: Message edited by: jmX ]</small>
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? the main difference in the f body and the vette is the vette is a few houndred pounds lighter. <img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" />
Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? Theres plenty of main differences. Drag coefficient is higher on the Fbody, its solid axle vs IRS, along with heavier, its less powerfull (stock).
Overall, between C5s stock vs stock, like i said, it'll come down to transmission type, and driver experience. Other then that, not a big issue. Between the Fbody and C5, a few other variables come into play. But, for the most part, stock vs stock, a Corvette SHOULD be able to take out a Fbody, whether it does, comes down ultimatly to the driver.
Overall, between C5s stock vs stock, like i said, it'll come down to transmission type, and driver experience. Other then that, not a big issue. Between the Fbody and C5, a few other variables come into play. But, for the most part, stock vs stock, a Corvette SHOULD be able to take out a Fbody, whether it does, comes down ultimatly to the driver.
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? I have heard that a fbody will pickup more power with mods than a ybody do to the transmission and rear axle setup.I heard it was like having a 12bolt underneath the c5 when it comes to power losses from mods.
Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? I dunno how that is...i think it would launch better being straight axle vs IRS, but i dont see how it can be any better when it starts off w/ less power, and basically the same thing as the C5 does...only way i could think the Fbody has the advantage would be launching w/ the straight axle vs the vettes IRS. If ya could elaborate, maybe i can see your POV... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? The same power?? Not even close !!! Factory f-body is like 315 the vette is like 345. I own both. when both stock the vette would kill the f-body. now they are both mod'd exactly the same, the f-body is a 6 spd and the vette is an auto and the vette still kills the f-body !!!
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The same power?? Not even close !!! Factory f-body is like 315 the vette is like 345. I own both. when both stock the vette would kill the f-body. now they are both mod'd exactly the same, the f-body is a 6 spd and the vette is an auto and the vette still kills the f-body !!!
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The majority of stock f-bodies I have seen on the dyno have put out about 299 rwhp, that translates to 345 at the fly
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The majority of stock f-bodies I have seen on the dyno have put out about 299 rwhp, that translates to 345 at the fly
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1 CRAZY:
<strong>The same power?? Not even close !!! Factory f-body is like 315 the vette is like 345. I own both. when both stock the vette would kill the f-body. now they are both mod'd exactly the same, the f-body is a 6 spd and the vette is an auto and the vette still kills the f-body !!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">WRONG! I can't beleive after all the progress we've made on this board we still have people like this posting total crap in here! COME ON DUDE.
Ok, I have a stock Camaro SS (and a C5). The camaro with an air lid made 307rwph. The Corvette with an intake made 307rwhp. WOW..amazing.
So, then I hop in my stock (no more air lid, as the car is for sale) Camaro SS and race my buddy's C5 with air intake and exhaust, and we're dead even to 120mph (from a 30mph roll). Both were 6 speeds, both started in the same gear, we both shifted at the exact same time, and we were dead even the whole race.
I've had similar races in my vette against f-bodies....maybe giving a slight advantage to the vette at 120+mph for aerodynamics.
I've had my LS1 camaro for 3 years and my LS1 vette for 1 year and I honestly have no idea how you can say what you said unless you are just grossly misinformed, or are going on "seat of the pants" information. My vette FEELS faster, but its not. 3rd gear feels amazing in my C5, yet its not pulling any harder than my Fbody was.
<small>[ November 18, 2002, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: jmX ]</small>
<strong>The same power?? Not even close !!! Factory f-body is like 315 the vette is like 345. I own both. when both stock the vette would kill the f-body. now they are both mod'd exactly the same, the f-body is a 6 spd and the vette is an auto and the vette still kills the f-body !!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">WRONG! I can't beleive after all the progress we've made on this board we still have people like this posting total crap in here! COME ON DUDE.
Ok, I have a stock Camaro SS (and a C5). The camaro with an air lid made 307rwph. The Corvette with an intake made 307rwhp. WOW..amazing.
So, then I hop in my stock (no more air lid, as the car is for sale) Camaro SS and race my buddy's C5 with air intake and exhaust, and we're dead even to 120mph (from a 30mph roll). Both were 6 speeds, both started in the same gear, we both shifted at the exact same time, and we were dead even the whole race.
I've had similar races in my vette against f-bodies....maybe giving a slight advantage to the vette at 120+mph for aerodynamics.
I've had my LS1 camaro for 3 years and my LS1 vette for 1 year and I honestly have no idea how you can say what you said unless you are just grossly misinformed, or are going on "seat of the pants" information. My vette FEELS faster, but its not. 3rd gear feels amazing in my C5, yet its not pulling any harder than my Fbody was.
<small>[ November 18, 2002, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: jmX ]</small>
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? Damn noobs. I thought we all knew that C5 and Fbody were pretty much the same as far as performance. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1 CRAZY:
<strong>The same power?? Not even close !!! Factory f-body is like 315 the vette is like 345. I own both. when both stock the vette would kill the f-body. now they are both mod'd exactly the same, the f-body is a 6 spd and the vette is an auto and the vette still kills the f-body !!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry, GM is full of crap on their horsepower ratings. Both the F body and Y body make the same power irrelevant of what GM SAYS.
If you're into dragracing, save your money and buy an F-body. They're great bang for the buck cars. I dragrace, but I also roadrace, autocross, and streetrace. My C5 has been bulletproof and I don't know too many LS1 Camaros with cold-air intake, headers, cat-back exhaust, and 4.10 gears running 117mph traps in the 1/4 mile. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> That said, there are several cammed Z28's here in DFW that will hand me my *** as they trap over 120mph with similar bolt-ons and an aggressive cam.
Stock Vette versus stock F-body with equal transmissions and equal drivers, from a stop to 140mph, the Vette should win, but not by much...
<small>[ November 24, 2002, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: QUIKAG ]</small>
<strong>The same power?? Not even close !!! Factory f-body is like 315 the vette is like 345. I own both. when both stock the vette would kill the f-body. now they are both mod'd exactly the same, the f-body is a 6 spd and the vette is an auto and the vette still kills the f-body !!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry, GM is full of crap on their horsepower ratings. Both the F body and Y body make the same power irrelevant of what GM SAYS.
If you're into dragracing, save your money and buy an F-body. They're great bang for the buck cars. I dragrace, but I also roadrace, autocross, and streetrace. My C5 has been bulletproof and I don't know too many LS1 Camaros with cold-air intake, headers, cat-back exhaust, and 4.10 gears running 117mph traps in the 1/4 mile. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> That said, there are several cammed Z28's here in DFW that will hand me my *** as they trap over 120mph with similar bolt-ons and an aggressive cam.
Stock Vette versus stock F-body with equal transmissions and equal drivers, from a stop to 140mph, the Vette should win, but not by much...
<small>[ November 24, 2002, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: QUIKAG ]</small>
Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? Hey what about at stock c5 or a f body with lid exaust pp3 and maf in the qtr. whos gonna win???
also i keep on hearing the ref. to 6 speed or a4 now most people generally say the 6 is faster but i am seeing alot of project cars that are a4's and slp swears the a4 with 3.73 is the fastest way to go. any comments?
also i keep on hearing the ref. to 6 speed or a4 now most people generally say the 6 is faster but i am seeing alot of project cars that are a4's and slp swears the a4 with 3.73 is the fastest way to go. any comments?
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Re: C5/ F-body street racing ......differences? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jpr5690:
Also i keep on hearing the ref. to 6 speed or a4 now most people generally say the 6 is faster but i am seeing alot of project cars that are a4's and slp swears the a4 with 3.73 is the fastest way to go. any comments?[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">3.73's coupled with a good T/C is the way to go!
<small>[ November 27, 2002, 09:14 AM: Message edited by: wallstAL ]</small>
Also i keep on hearing the ref. to 6 speed or a4 now most people generally say the 6 is faster but i am seeing alot of project cars that are a4's and slp swears the a4 with 3.73 is the fastest way to go. any comments?[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">3.73's coupled with a good T/C is the way to go!
<small>[ November 27, 2002, 09:14 AM: Message edited by: wallstAL ]</small>