What mods needed to run with t-66 supra???
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What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? I am planning on purchasing a c5 [M6] within the next couple of weeks. I am just wondering what kind of mods would I need to do in order to keep up with my friends 94 M6 t-66 Supra??? I dont want to use any nitrous or F.I.. His best time to date was 12.6@119.4. Dynoed 519 with 19 p.s.i.... I want to take him at the track but more importantly from a roll. Plus I need my car to get good gas miledge and maintain reliability [only car and will be drivin 200+miles a week]. Thanks guys...... 
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Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? his mph doesn't match up for that lvl of HP. He should make more like high 120's for mph. He may just suck at the track. 12.6 is easy
For your C5 from a roll, you'd need that kind of power. Since a roll negates launch. So, 500HP would be a stroker, or a turbo kit, or a blower.
For your C5 from a roll, you'd need that kind of power. Since a roll negates launch. So, 500HP would be a stroker, or a turbo kit, or a blower.
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Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? I will agree with J-rod. Although I know nothing about Supras, his trap speed is a little low for his amount of power. If all you are worried about is the track, boltons is all you are gonna need to get down the track in that amount of time. Other than that, you should be able to be in that category with heads and cam to match his alleged stated performance. Now if you are trying to match his dyno numbers, then J-rod is correct. You will need more than heads and cam. Good luck.
Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? This is a MK IV Supra we're talking about...so you know, the 900rwhp cars only pull 12s. lol. jk.
If you dont want to run nitrous or F.I. then definatly go with a heads/cam package, maybe do a slight overbore (it'll take it to 364 CID, which is the same size as the Vortec 6000 truck engines) up the compression, run race gas, do full exhaust, possibly gears, and definatly a clutch to handle the new amount of power. And you should be able to pull him hard off the line, and stay ahead of him imo w/ most of those. If not, go w/ a bigger engine like a 414 LS1, and do a heads/cam package, and then most of the other stuff, and you should be able to take him.
If you dont want to run nitrous or F.I. then definatly go with a heads/cam package, maybe do a slight overbore (it'll take it to 364 CID, which is the same size as the Vortec 6000 truck engines) up the compression, run race gas, do full exhaust, possibly gears, and definatly a clutch to handle the new amount of power. And you should be able to pull him hard off the line, and stay ahead of him imo w/ most of those. If not, go w/ a bigger engine like a 414 LS1, and do a heads/cam package, and then most of the other stuff, and you should be able to take him.
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Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? I am guessing mk4s have IRS which make them a problem to launch. 4.10s, DRs, and a few bolt ons and you will be there, unfortunately you will also have IRS. If the car is not a z06, lose the runflats they suck at thge track.
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Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? I don't think anything NA will be able to run with a T-66 supra...19 lbs of boost is nothing for that turbo! I would imagine on 26-28 lbs, mid to high 600rwhp is possible....
also, remember that a Supra is geared for high speed runs...
There is a guy here in dallas with a 530rwhp ZR1 who raced a single-turbo supra on pump gas....the supra made approx 540rwhp....they were even until 130 or so when they supra just walked away from him.
just my .02
Alex
also, remember that a Supra is geared for high speed runs...
There is a guy here in dallas with a 530rwhp ZR1 who raced a single-turbo supra on pump gas....the supra made approx 540rwhp....they were even until 130 or so when they supra just walked away from him.
just my .02
Alex
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Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? I have seen a T-66 single run DJ99SS on the freeway from a roll and take a beatdown. I'm not saying Supras aren't fast, but the MPH is the big thing. It should be way higher.... Even with a cruddy launch, it should still come on on the big end...
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Verdad Gallardo Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? Thats true J-rod. Hell, even Titan Motorsports Supra which is the fastest unibody supra, can pull high 8s w/ 7 sec MPHs.
And the C5 IRS is going to be a slight disadvantage, but the Supra's launching ability sucks. Almost all the fast drag MkIVs are running 9"s or 12 bolts, cause there just isnt anything out there for the stock Yota units.
If he's still pullin 12.6s, you should be able to walk him @ the track fairly well w/ some slicks, boltons and some skill imo. But in the mph/top end runs he will walk you
And the C5 IRS is going to be a slight disadvantage, but the Supra's launching ability sucks. Almost all the fast drag MkIVs are running 9"s or 12 bolts, cause there just isnt anything out there for the stock Yota units.
If he's still pullin 12.6s, you should be able to walk him @ the track fairly well w/ some slicks, boltons and some skill imo. But in the mph/top end runs he will walk you
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Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra???
Plus I need my car to get good gas miledge and maintain reliability [only car and will be drivin 200+miles a week]. Thanks guys......
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Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? Don't forget, a bolt on auto can gain around .4 -.5 seconds thru the quarter with a good convertor. You would beat him thru the quarter, but not from a roll.
Don't know how important that is to you, but you will need a stroker with heads and cam to take him from a roll NA. That will set you back a lot of money. Bolt ons and a convertor is a a lot cheaper.
Dean
Don't know how important that is to you, but you will need a stroker with heads and cam to take him from a roll NA. That will set you back a lot of money. Bolt ons and a convertor is a a lot cheaper.
Dean
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Re: What mods needed to run with t-66 supra??? To run a 12.6x with an M6 vette will require HUGE modifications:
Change tires. ET Streets and skinnies.
Move rev-limiter to 6500.
Put gas in it.
Drive it like you stole it.
Change tires. ET Streets and skinnies.
Move rev-limiter to 6500.
Put gas in it.
Drive it like you stole it.
You should have no problem beating a low 500rwhp Supra.. Usually by the time they build up boost the race is over.. I smacked them around with 421rwhp and 4.10's from a stop to 140mph.. The only Supra that ever beat me was a Supra with a T-88.. It dyno'd over 800rwhp, but a local guy with a LQ4 beat him from a 30mph roll to 150mph with nitrous by like 6 cars.. It all depends on how you set up the car.. 348ci forged setup with nitrous can beat ANY Supra from a stop to 150mph.. You just need to make sure you have traction..
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To run a 12.6x with an M6 vette will require HUGE modifications:
Change tires. ET Streets and skinnies.
Move rev-limiter to 6500.
Put gas in it.
Drive it like you stole it.
Change tires. ET Streets and skinnies.
Move rev-limiter to 6500.
Put gas in it.
Drive it like you stole it.
And if that won't do it add in a simple proven heads/cam/headers/gears/tuning package and Toyota boy will get owned. See www.cartek.net for some examples.
single turbo supra from a roll is a monster when tuned right. this time he gave you is either a total lie, or it's severly detuned. T66 can do 700+rwhp on a stock engine/stock cam supra with fuel.
the fact that he's not going over 550rwhp indicates he doesn't have a fuel system (that's the limit on stock fuel system)
19psi means that was also on pump gas. race goes does miracles for turbo engines.
either way, this car should do at least 125mph quarter, which on the highway with a 6sp translates to some absolutely mad 80-150 dashes.
19psi on stock engine/fuel/cam/turbos can get you 124mph when tuned right, so a big single should do way better than that.
i think he's sandbagging, watch out, and spray the hell out of your car, you might be able to pull it off due to 500lbs less in a c5.
either way, i want a video
the fact that he's not going over 550rwhp indicates he doesn't have a fuel system (that's the limit on stock fuel system)
19psi means that was also on pump gas. race goes does miracles for turbo engines.
either way, this car should do at least 125mph quarter, which on the highway with a 6sp translates to some absolutely mad 80-150 dashes.
19psi on stock engine/fuel/cam/turbos can get you 124mph when tuned right, so a big single should do way better than that.
i think he's sandbagging, watch out, and spray the hell out of your car, you might be able to pull it off due to 500lbs less in a c5.
either way, i want a video
