Congrats to Coleman Roddy and Madman Racing !!
01-12-2008, 06:51 PM
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Congrats to Coleman Roddy and Madman Racing !! Congrats to Coleman Roddy and Madman Racing on the recent car feature in the March 2008 GM HighTech Magazine issue..I was part of this 3 car shootout at State Capital Dragway in Baton Rouge La. back in February 2007..
This car has gone thru a complete redo since then and should be running pretty soon with a LSX blocked 440..Again Congrats guys it was fun being part of this deal...
This car has gone thru a complete redo since then and should be running pretty soon with a LSX blocked 440..Again Congrats guys it was fun being part of this deal...
01-16-2008, 09:50 PM
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Awesome! Congrats to Coleman, he's always been one hell of a nice guy to me, and that car was scootin' last time I saw it. Can't wait to see it out there again! I'll be pickin' up that issue to check out Coleman's and your old ride, Tim. 
01-17-2008, 07:08 AM
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Interesting. I was just going to post a thread about this. I find it hard to believe that the car is a hydraulic roller with a 280 duration and .800 lift cam and running 9.40s. And all of that power through a Fast 90mm, NW TB, and a Whisper lid? Why not a port matched Victor Jr. and 4150 TB setup? The TEA ported LS6 heads only flow 325 @ .600 lift on a 4.00 bore? It also says it has OEM spark plugs and wires? 
I'm not blatantly calling bullshit, but it has definitely raced some eyebrows with me and my crew up here in Chitown. Maybe a typo in the article? I can see that it might be a typo when on page 29 in the LSX Shootout article it says, "The SAM HO SS uses a more classic Gen III recipe of C5R heads and block with the hope of becoming the first to reach 8s au natural." I'm sorry, but CAMNHAWK was in the 8s all motor back in '05. I guess the only fast cars that are taken seriously are down in Texas???
I'm not blatantly calling bullshit, but it has definitely raced some eyebrows with me and my crew up here in Chitown. Maybe a typo in the article? I can see that it might be a typo when on page 29 in the LSX Shootout article it says, "The SAM HO SS uses a more classic Gen III recipe of C5R heads and block with the hope of becoming the first to reach 8s au natural." I'm sorry, but CAMNHAWK was in the 8s all motor back in '05. I guess the only fast cars that are taken seriously are down in Texas???
01-17-2008, 07:25 AM
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The cam specs were made up by the writer. We wouldnt give him specs so he made his own up. The car does have a hydraulic cam spec'ed by Geoff at Thunder.
The whole key is a dependable engine that makes good power and a killer suspension. That car will hook on an iceskating rink. Also Gerald (Colemans crewchief) is the master on making a car have a killer combination. They would make passes and make very small changes and DOCUMENT every change. I know they sent the convertor back numerous times to get it just right. They also played with shock adjustments and tires and torque arm settings. They found out that 50 rpm on the 2 step is worth alot. All this is how you are supposed to test so you can have such a quick car.
The whole key is a dependable engine that makes good power and a killer suspension. That car will hook on an iceskating rink. Also Gerald (Colemans crewchief) is the master on making a car have a killer combination. They would make passes and make very small changes and DOCUMENT every change. I know they sent the convertor back numerous times to get it just right. They also played with shock adjustments and tires and torque arm settings. They found out that 50 rpm on the 2 step is worth alot. All this is how you are supposed to test so you can have such a quick car.
01-17-2008, 07:30 AM
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It's amazing work controling a 2.08 valve and big hyd cam with a 5/16's pushrod and a 921 spring. When Camn Hawk ran a Ported fast with a giant solid roller, huge compression, dry sump and a vacuume pump ther best they could run was a 9.60. So you guys must have figured out something there.
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01-17-2008, 07:49 AM
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I don't believe the car, that is why we are questioning it, lol. I can believe that you shift and trap that though. I shifted my cam only '00 Z28 at 7000rpms with stock rod bolts, so that part isn't unbelievable.
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01-17-2008, 08:41 AM
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Well all I know is from my personal experiance of running a stronger spring, stock rockers and 5/16's pushrods with a 2.05 valve shifting and trapping the same and my heads were beyond screwed at the end of the season from no valve control. Not to mention 3 points more of compression and only went 10.17@ 131 with a 1.31 60ft. This was also at 3300lbs though.
01-17-2008, 11:03 AM
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I believe it, I've been down there a few times and folks down there really dial their cars in they go like once or twice a week. And the raceweight is 3100, that's pretty light.
01-17-2008, 11:18 AM
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Ok so why with everything I have at 3150 did I go 9.82? I have the same heads with a 2.05 valve that flow more. And if you think my car isn't dialed in....then.
01-17-2008, 12:50 PM
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Considering I built the car I know what motor is in it. It had the 402 in it. Its not my problem you cant run with them. If you could 60ft what their car does you would probably run right beside them. Its no the exotic parts that make them fast, its the DRIVE to be the best.
01-17-2008, 12:54 PM
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So a 1.29 60ft is bad now? Let me guess cause I don't run your parts I can't 60ft and I'll never be fast right. The story has more holes in it that swiss cheese.
01-17-2008, 12:55 PM
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Considering I built the car I know what motor is in it. It had the 402 in it. Its not my problem you cant run with them. If you could 60ft what their car does you would probably run right beside them. Its no the exotic parts that make them fast, its the DRIVE to be the best.
