Comp Engineering Front Motor Plate
01-22-2009, 12:14 AM
#1
Comp Engineering Front Motor Plate First - Im not tryin to bash anyone here or start a flame war.
WOW - I just got the Comp Engineering LS Front plate in and this thing is bad ***.
I looked around at all the plates out there, the S&W and Madman (sorry again not trying to bash just stating an opinion) and wasnt thrilled about the 3/side scrawny bolts that would hold the engine in place.
I will post some pics later today, but I can tell you Comp did their homework on this ( maybe because Rick Moroso had/has some badass vettes that Kurt built) The plates use the common 3 waterpump bolts in addition to atleast 3 other bolts per side using spacers and a billet block. Will definately take some work to get the alternator in there but migh be as simple as mounting it to the plate.
I will try to get this bolted onto my mock-up block and get some pics up, but if youre looking to do a motor/mid plate setup, this is a definate to consider.
WOW - I just got the Comp Engineering LS Front plate in and this thing is bad ***.
I looked around at all the plates out there, the S&W and Madman (sorry again not trying to bash just stating an opinion) and wasnt thrilled about the 3/side scrawny bolts that would hold the engine in place.
I will post some pics later today, but I can tell you Comp did their homework on this ( maybe because Rick Moroso had/has some badass vettes that Kurt built) The plates use the common 3 waterpump bolts in addition to atleast 3 other bolts per side using spacers and a billet block. Will definately take some work to get the alternator in there but migh be as simple as mounting it to the plate.
I will try to get this bolted onto my mock-up block and get some pics up, but if youre looking to do a motor/mid plate setup, this is a definate to consider.
01-22-2009, 09:38 AM
#4
Yeah, what was the price and pictures would be good.
I have an old billingsley one that Burkhart made, holds the motor on with the 6 little bolts (this one is all one piece) and it's decently strong, I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the next project it would be nice to see some other options.
I have an old billingsley one that Burkhart made, holds the motor on with the 6 little bolts (this one is all one piece) and it's decently strong, I haven't had any problems with it yet, but the next project it would be nice to see some other options.
01-22-2009, 12:07 PM
#5
Price is $245 from summit.
Again this is a bad *** piece if you arent afraid of fabbing things up. The Madman plate is much nicer for a bolt on and go (almost). I plan to have my BMR alternator brackets milled to compensate for the plate thickness, and have that area waterjet cut.
Sorry for the pics stupid blackberry
Again this is a bad *** piece if you arent afraid of fabbing things up. The Madman plate is much nicer for a bolt on and go (almost). I plan to have my BMR alternator brackets milled to compensate for the plate thickness, and have that area waterjet cut.
Sorry for the pics stupid blackberry
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01-22-2009, 04:10 PM
#9
Not to hijack a thread Brian, but do you offer, and what do you get for SBC motor plates for an F body. I'n not nuts about what I had to do to put my bowtie block in. I bought a set of slick looking mounts from FJ Smith that were supposed to be what I needed. I talked to him about them and they were supposed to be what I needed. To use them the engine would be too much lower in the car. The headers lead a tough enough life with it at stock hight. 
They were supposed to be a bolt-in deal with a stock K member like I have to use now in SS. Second thing I bought there that I couldn't use. Cost too much to send them back to Canada. Just tossed them in a corner.
They were supposed to be a bolt-in deal with a stock K member like I have to use now in SS. Second thing I bought there that I couldn't use. Cost too much to send them back to Canada. Just tossed them in a corner.
01-22-2009, 04:13 PM
#10
First - Im not tryin to bash anyone here or start a flame war.
WOW - I just got the Comp Engineering LS Front plate in and this thing is bad ***.
I looked around at all the plates out there, the S&W and Madman (sorry again not trying to bash just stating an opinion) and wasnt thrilled about the 3/side scrawny bolts that would hold the engine in place.
I will post some pics later today, but I can tell you Comp did their homework on this ( maybe because Rick Moroso had/has some badass vettes that Kurt built) The plates use the common 3 waterpump bolts in addition to atleast 3 other bolts per side using spacers and a billet block. Will definately take some work to get the alternator in there but migh be as simple as mounting it to the plate.
I will try to get this bolted onto my mock-up block and get some pics up, but if youre looking to do a motor/mid plate setup, this is a definate to consider.
WOW - I just got the Comp Engineering LS Front plate in and this thing is bad ***.
I looked around at all the plates out there, the S&W and Madman (sorry again not trying to bash just stating an opinion) and wasnt thrilled about the 3/side scrawny bolts that would hold the engine in place.
I will post some pics later today, but I can tell you Comp did their homework on this ( maybe because Rick Moroso had/has some badass vettes that Kurt built) The plates use the common 3 waterpump bolts in addition to atleast 3 other bolts per side using spacers and a billet block. Will definately take some work to get the alternator in there but migh be as simple as mounting it to the plate.
I will try to get this bolted onto my mock-up block and get some pics up, but if youre looking to do a motor/mid plate setup, this is a definate to consider.
I assume you are also runing solid motor mounts? If so then there is more then those 3 bolts per side holding it in.
01-22-2009, 05:07 PM
#14
Not to hijack a thread Brian, but do you offer, and what do you get for SBC motor plates for an F body. I'n not nuts about what I had to do to put my bowtie block in. I bought a set of slick looking mounts from FJ Smith that were supposed to be what I needed. I talked to him about them and they were supposed to be what I needed. To use them the engine would be too much lower in the car. The headers lead a tough enough life with it at stock hight.
They were supposed to be a bolt-in deal with a stock K member like I have to use now in SS. Second thing I bought there that I couldn't use. Cost too much to send them back to Canada. Just tossed them in a corner.
They were supposed to be a bolt-in deal with a stock K member like I have to use now in SS. Second thing I bought there that I couldn't use. Cost too much to send them back to Canada. Just tossed them in a corner.
01-22-2009, 05:59 PM
#15
Steve, I was actually getting your plate mentally confused with S&W's - you utilize the driverside alternator mount holes on your plate, S&W is strictly the waterpump bolts.
I did like the idea of the billet block for the two additional mounts on the pass side, the CE plate also has a spacer and bolt to attach to the passengerside head.
I did like the idea of the billet block for the two additional mounts on the pass side, the CE plate also has a spacer and bolt to attach to the passengerside head.
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01-22-2009, 06:24 PM
#17
A bunch of big power guys run both. I will run both.
At the very least for saftey. With big power I don't want to risk a motor riping loose thats held in by a few bolts.
For most of the guys on this site its not an issue, find cars making 1,000hp on low boost and I doubt any run just plates.
At the very least for saftey. With big power I don't want to risk a motor riping loose thats held in by a few bolts.
For most of the guys on this site its not an issue, find cars making 1,000hp on low boost and I doubt any run just plates.
01-22-2009, 06:38 PM
#18
A bunch of big power guys run both. I will run both.
At the very least for saftey. With big power I don't want to risk a motor riping loose thats held in by a few bolts.
For most of the guys on this site its not an issue, find cars making 1,000hp on low boost and I doubt any run just plates.
At the very least for saftey. With big power I don't want to risk a motor riping loose thats held in by a few bolts.
For most of the guys on this site its not an issue, find cars making 1,000hp on low boost and I doubt any run just plates.
I know for a 100% fact that Bruce Maichles TransAm in NMCA Prostock uses only plates on his BBC 4th Gen. Part of the reason to use motor/mid plate setup is to give clearance for headers, etc. It also stops any block flex that may occur with stock location mounts.
01-22-2009, 06:44 PM
#19
Im pretty sure that Fireball only runs plates. I know he is well past the 1000hp mark with low boost.
I know for a 100% fact that Bruce Maichles TransAm in NMCA Prostock uses only plates on his BBC 4th Gen. Part of the reason to use motor/mid plate setup is to give clearance for headers, etc. It also stops any block flex that may occur with stock location mounts.
I know for a 100% fact that Bruce Maichles TransAm in NMCA Prostock uses only plates on his BBC 4th Gen. Part of the reason to use motor/mid plate setup is to give clearance for headers, etc. It also stops any block flex that may occur with stock location mounts.
Agree with what you are saying but if you are runing turbo(s) then header clearence does not matter.
Some people run just plates, some run both. Ill ask around more for my set up but so far I am being told to run both.
