Anybody using aftermarket doors on their 4th gen f-body?
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Anybody using aftermarket doors on their 4th gen f-body?
I am curious to know if there would be weight savings from this. Anyone know what a stock 93-02 camaro door shell weighs without anything bolted to it and no glass? for clarification I am talking about the whole fiberglass door.
Also wondering if the side impact door bars can be used with these?
A company called "chaser" makes or made these at one time maybe other companies as well..
Also wondering if the side impact door bars can be used with these?
A company called "chaser" makes or made these at one time maybe other companies as well..
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If you run aftermarket doors you have no choice to use lexan. There is a substantial weight difference, if you have picked up even a gutted OEM door you know what I'm talking about! Why in the world you would pay $600+ to run aftermarket doors but want to retain the impact bars is beyond me, but they do not have the metal bracketry inside so this is not possible to use the bars or factory glass...
Sounds like you have a street car and this is the last mod you need.
Sounds like you have a street car and this is the last mod you need.
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If you run aftermarket doors you have no choice to use lexan. There is a substantial weight difference, if you have picked up even a gutted OEM door you know what I'm talking about! Why in the world you would pay $600+ to run aftermarket doors but want to retain the impact bars is beyond me, but they do not have the metal bracketry inside so this is not possible to use the bars or factory glass...
Sounds like you have a street car and this is the last mod you need.
Sounds like you have a street car and this is the last mod you need.
The reason this caught my eye is that I have heard that completely gutted factory doors vs. aftermarket doors = 40 pound weight difference a piece. So that would be 80 pounds right there then if you subtract door bars use lexan etc that would be a huge weight reduction. I could not find much info on this.. I know that the vfn pieces don't take door bars and must use lexan but was unsure if this was the case with other manufacturers.
If they only use lexan and cannot accept door bars you are right- best left for a drag only car. I ask this question for information/curiousity - not because I am planning on doing it to my vehicle.
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You can't install the crash bars, they won't work. As for lexan, with the VFN doors yes you have to run lexan. There's a guy on YB by the name KOZ, he makes some carbon fiber stuff for transam 4th gen cars, I don't know if those doors require the lexan or not, my understanding is that be bought all Ronnie Duke's old molds, and sent them up to a place in Canada that's really good with carbon fiber work... The parts aren't cheap y any means, but they fit the car, better then 99% of what's out there. As far as I know he only has molds for a transam/firebird, no camaro parts that I know of.
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You can't install the crash bars, they won't work. As for lexan, with the VFN doors yes you have to run lexan. There's a guy on YB by the name KOZ, he makes some carbon fiber stuff for transam 4th gen cars, I don't know if those doors require the lexan or not, my understanding is that be bought all Ronnie Duke's old molds, and sent them up to a place in Canada that's really good with carbon fiber work... The parts aren't cheap y any means, but they fit the car, better then 99% of what's out there. As far as I know he only has molds for a transam/firebird, no camaro parts that I know of.
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You can take about 24 lbs of the stock doors off with DMH's door panels, and then you can get about another 10 lbs per door out with some cutting, which I already did. The 93 lbs also includes the safety bar, which is another 7 lbs.
So, you can get 41 lbs out per door on a stock set of doors, but you still have 52 lbs of door, compared to the 5 lbs for the carbon doors...
That's alot to save. I wasn't going to do them... but I might have to now
So, you can get 41 lbs out per door on a stock set of doors, but you still have 52 lbs of door, compared to the 5 lbs for the carbon doors...
That's alot to save. I wasn't going to do them... but I might have to now
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wow thats a chunk.
damnit I wish I would remove the doorbars. how light can you do with keeping them? its probally only 3-4 pounds removing fiberglass behind the panels???
I'd rather run lighter doorpanels, with the bars in still. while I drive on the street so much with the wolfe low door bars
damnit I wish I would remove the doorbars. how light can you do with keeping them? its probally only 3-4 pounds removing fiberglass behind the panels???
I'd rather run lighter doorpanels, with the bars in still. while I drive on the street so much with the wolfe low door bars
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If you take the bars out, put the DMH panels on and cut the brackets back that held the bars in place, and take a cutoff wheel/hole saw to the inner skin of the door you can get about 41 lbs out of the car.
Now, if you swap to the carbon doors you double that savings....
Which unfortunately, now I'm gonna have to add to my list. Thanks guys
Now, if you swap to the carbon doors you double that savings....
Which unfortunately, now I'm gonna have to add to my list. Thanks guys
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about 2500 before paint
i'll do a thread in about two weeks
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That would be cool to have those doors with working lexan windows that could roll up/down manually (not all the way but just like half way even would be cool). It'd Look like a regular car door to anyone else until you go to open it... damn OEM doors carry so much weight, they're huge! I'm surprised you don't see failed hinges more often as mine don't look so happy in the 95 camaro
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considering you are saving, like h20proof said, 70-80+ lbs off each side of the car I can see why it would cost so much...2k for 160+ lbs off the car sounds bout right. Ain't cheap to go fast and the faster the part(s) makes you, the faster the price-tag drains ur checking account.
That would be cool to have those doors with working lexan windows that could roll up/down manually (not all the way but just like half way even would be cool). It'd Look like a regular car door to anyone else until you go to open it... damn OEM doors carry so much weight, they're huge! I'm surprised you don't see failed hinges more often as mine don't look so happy in the 95 camaro
That would be cool to have those doors with working lexan windows that could roll up/down manually (not all the way but just like half way even would be cool). It'd Look like a regular car door to anyone else until you go to open it... damn OEM doors carry so much weight, they're huge! I'm surprised you don't see failed hinges more often as mine don't look so happy in the 95 camaro
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