ACs single digit build thread!
Don't put spray bars in the intake, you'll be better off running something like a zex plate or a diffuser speedtech plate, distribution wise I am 100% on that.
That elbow and TB that's on that thing, should be used for a fishing weight. that's about the worst elbow I have ever seen LOL.
Intake itself, rails and whatnot are worth it though.
I'd put a top mounted carb style TB on it, and just run a carb hat with a pipe down to the radiator, and a big filter on it to drive around, then just put a carb screen on it when you are at the track to stop anything big from falling in. It would be an easy 5 minute thing to change, and would give you street filtration, and the open TB for track use.
Get a hood on the car that sits up as high as you can, the more air gap from the TB to the hood the better. Nice way to cover the cowl, which you could cut out and make working on the car alot easier too
(sorry for making ya want to spend even more $)
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The stock hood is staying im 100% sure on that and the car will be 100% streetable so the cowl is also stayin. The Wilson elbow will fit under it and they work great so thats the route Im taking.
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Little bit of progress!! Intake is done being ported By Lloyd Elliott and is now at Nitrous Outlet for the spray bars. Heres some b4 and after pics of Lloyds work. He did a hell of a job and should work kick ***!!!!!!!!
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Talked to Dave at Nitrous Outlet to spec out the system and I had 2 choices on the custom spray bars. I could have done 50-300 in 50hp increments or 100-500 in 100hp increments.
I decided to go 50-300 to be safe for now but can always change them out later if Im feeling crazy. My noids are good to 500, but I figured 100hp hit will change the car too much while Im getting it sorted out. Also my Nano will only support a 250shot without stepping it up to the 4500psi kit.
On a 300shot the car will make around 750rwhp and that should be good enough for a while.
I decided to go 50-300 to be safe for now but can always change them out later if Im feeling crazy. My noids are good to 500, but I figured 100hp hit will change the car too much while Im getting it sorted out. Also my Nano will only support a 250shot without stepping it up to the 4500psi kit.
On a 300shot the car will make around 750rwhp and that should be good enough for a while.
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I don't like that nano stuff personally... I prefer a fresh bottle every run... but if that's the way you went, it should be fine.
Any reason you did spray bars in the intake, rather then a plate or fogger setup? I'm always curious when I hear people doing what what steered them towards it....
Any reason you did spray bars in the intake, rather then a plate or fogger setup? I'm always curious when I hear people doing what what steered them towards it....
I rather run a new bottle after each run as well. Especially if your running a 200 or more shot. I would personally not have gotten the spray bar either. I would run the plate system, carb style efi and cut the cowl. But I dont have a MINT condition car either. So I wouldnt mind cutting up my car lol.
Looks good so far MIke
Looks good so far MIke
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Plates are not not the best choice for a single plane. The spray bars are custom flowed to my specific intake and will have way better distrabution. 275 for the spray bar, 200 for porting and I bought the intake converted already. I also have a big shot plate for it but im not going to use it.
Plates are not not the best choice for a single plane.
TRUE, DP IS ALWAYS THE BEST ROUTE
The spray bars are custom flowed to my specific intake and will have way better distrabution.
I WILL TAKE THAT BET
275 for the spray bar, 200 for porting and I bought the intake converted already.
I also have a big shot plate for it but im not going to use it.
IMO, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF WITH THAT THEN A SPRAY BAR
TRUE, DP IS ALWAYS THE BEST ROUTE
The spray bars are custom flowed to my specific intake and will have way better distrabution.
I WILL TAKE THAT BET
275 for the spray bar, 200 for porting and I bought the intake converted already.
I also have a big shot plate for it but im not going to use it.
IMO, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF WITH THAT THEN A SPRAY BAR
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I hear what you're saying. but, I ask this.... what do the guys from nitrous outlet, or any other nitrous company have on THEIR OWN CARS...... end of the day, I'd look at that. I can list about 10 things that none of the guys ever have on their cars, but they do sell them... and for good reason.
Not trying to flame anyone or start a war, but there's several "popular" things that people like to have because it looks nice, makes it "easier" and the like, but that doesn't make it right.
Take it to PM if you'd like. I just wouldn't plan on putting more then 200 thru that spray bar, and if you want to go bigger, you will be putting a fogger on, and if you try to use that spray bar as a 2nd stage, have fun getting the cyl to cyl to look good with it. Better have a pcm that will let you do the timing on each cyl individually, you will 100% need it.
Not trying to flame anyone or start a war, but there's several "popular" things that people like to have because it looks nice, makes it "easier" and the like, but that doesn't make it right.
Take it to PM if you'd like. I just wouldn't plan on putting more then 200 thru that spray bar, and if you want to go bigger, you will be putting a fogger on, and if you try to use that spray bar as a 2nd stage, have fun getting the cyl to cyl to look good with it. Better have a pcm that will let you do the timing on each cyl individually, you will 100% need it.
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One of these days Ill go to a BS3 or fast system etc with a DP system but for what got funds for the spray bar seems to be the best choice over a plate. Its basically a built in plate bar that is custom flowed to my specific intake. Dave(owner of N.O.) assures me this is the best route for what Im doing and those guys know nitrous. I trust him with my set up.
Good luck with it. Post up plug pic's once you get it up and running, make sure to click the car off right at the top end of the track, pull all 8, take good pictures, and then cut the threads off at the base, and take pic's of the porcelin, so we can see the cyl to cyl fuel distribution, along with the tip heat and base ring of the plugs.
You should be fine with 200 or less, at that power level on a properly built motor as long as you don't do something stupid with the tune it should be fine. Start getting into 250, 300, 400 hits, and it's a different ball game.
Make sure to use good fuel, C16, and don't skimp on it... it may be a safety net that you may, or may not need.
You should be fine with 200 or less, at that power level on a properly built motor as long as you don't do something stupid with the tune it should be fine. Start getting into 250, 300, 400 hits, and it's a different ball game.
Make sure to use good fuel, C16, and don't skimp on it... it may be a safety net that you may, or may not need.
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The stand alone will def have C16 and Ill def take pictures of the plugs and post them up. Dave makes these bars up to a 500hit and Ill be going 250-300 max with it. Maybe I can get him to chime in on the subject here.
That will be the best thing you could have done for the car.
Don't put spray bars in the intake, you'll be better off running something like a zex plate or a diffuser speedtech plate, distribution wise I am 100% on that.
That elbow and TB that's on that thing, should be used for a fishing weight. that's about the worst elbow I have ever seen LOL.
Intake itself, rails and whatnot are worth it though.
I'd put a top mounted carb style TB on it, and just run a carb hat with a pipe down to the radiator, and a big filter on it to drive around, then just put a carb screen on it when you are at the track to stop anything big from falling in. It would be an easy 5 minute thing to change, and would give you street filtration, and the open TB for track use.
Get a hood on the car that sits up as high as you can, the more air gap from the TB to the hood the better. Nice way to cover the cowl, which you could cut out and make working on the car alot easier too
(sorry for making ya want to spend even more $)
Don't put spray bars in the intake, you'll be better off running something like a zex plate or a diffuser speedtech plate, distribution wise I am 100% on that.
That elbow and TB that's on that thing, should be used for a fishing weight. that's about the worst elbow I have ever seen LOL.
Intake itself, rails and whatnot are worth it though.
I'd put a top mounted carb style TB on it, and just run a carb hat with a pipe down to the radiator, and a big filter on it to drive around, then just put a carb screen on it when you are at the track to stop anything big from falling in. It would be an easy 5 minute thing to change, and would give you street filtration, and the open TB for track use.
Get a hood on the car that sits up as high as you can, the more air gap from the TB to the hood the better. Nice way to cover the cowl, which you could cut out and make working on the car alot easier too
(sorry for making ya want to spend even more $)
As to your comment against spray bars. No disrespect but you could not be anyfurther from the facts on this one. Ill take you up on this one and explain why I disagree with the tech proof and flow data to back up my statements.
I would put OUR spray bar in many of the late model EFI style carb intakes any day over any of the mass produced plates on the market.
I am getting my *** kicked on deadlines here at the shop so I need alittle time to get back with you on this one. Please stay on me to back up my talk.
Dave