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Old 05-24-2012, 08:45 AM
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Yes it was exactly like you said. Do you think I should drop the front coil overs down some as well?
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I wouldn't make to many changes at once.

Keep it simple, and you'll have it sorted out.
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Ok well im going to move the lca's back up one and drop the tq arm. Hopefully ill be at the track next Wednesday as well with another update.
Old 05-30-2012, 09:41 AM
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Before you change too much do your burnout in 2nd gear and pull it out of the waterbox while spinning. You might have stopped your burnout while still in the burnout box. Looks to me that you launched with wet tires.
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I might be going tonight if the weather clears up and the humidity drops so I will give it shot.
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Here is some interesting data for you ... I was in your position not long ago and am still dialing in. Check out some of these posts ... I just finished my 3rd test & tune last Friday ... 1.933 first test & tune and down to a 1.668 last Friday.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...s-103-mph.html

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...d-threads.html

A few tips ...

.... your 2-Step is waaay low. I started low too and am up to 4,500 and will increase next time out to 5,000.

... work on your burnout. Do a quick spin rolling through the water to get the tire wet all the way around, but not so much that you soak your fender wells (that water will drop back on the track or your tires at the line). Do your burnout in front of the water box from second gear, haze the tires and roll-out part way. DON'T roll out and let your tires hook ... this will tear up a stock T-56 ... push your clutch in before the tires hook.

... as others have said, make your changes one at a time and take notes.
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Well I had the 2step up at like 5.5 before and then started dropping it. My main problem is wheel hop. I can feel it starting sometimes in the burnout box even.

I have a line lock in it to so maybe I'm not doing my burnouts right but I usually just sit in the water box smoke em then roll out a little. Before that that I would just hold the brake on my street tires and they hooked about as well as they could I think
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Originally Posted by jetaws6
Well I had the 2step up at like 5.5 before and then started dropping it. My main problem is wheel hop. I can feel it starting sometimes in the burnout box even.

I have a line lock in it to so maybe I'm not doing my burnouts right but I usually just sit in the water box smoke em then roll out a little. Before that that I would just hold the brake on my street tires and they hooked about as well as they could I think
Try the suggestions posted in your thread and eliminate the wheelhop first and foremost. I have no wheel hop issues, so I got lucky in my initial suspension setup.

You don't want to "power brake" during your burnouts ... you will heat up your brake rotors and affect your slow down at the end of the track not too mention it wears out your brakes. Stick to the line lock for your burn outs.
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Yeah I know. Surprisingly when I changed my rear after roughly 100 track passes doing burnouts like that when I was pretty stock the brakes were still in great shape.
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Make the suspension adjustments I suggested.....if not you'll tear something up from the wheel hop.

Set the 2 step to 4500-5000, tires at 12psi cold, and do a nice 2nd or 3rd gear burnout - depends on the rear gear ratio of course. I like 3rd - it get them nice and warm quick.

If it works - then it's on. You'll need to find out what tire pressure your combo likes (probably 12-14psi) and start moving the 2 step up.

Good luck and have fun man!
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U doing any data logging during the runs??
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Originally Posted by nocooler
Make the suspension adjustments I suggested.....if not you'll tear something up from the wheel hop.

Set the 2 step to 4500-5000, tires at 12psi cold, and do a nice 2nd or 3rd gear burnout - depends on the rear gear ratio of course. I like 3rd - it get them nice and warm quick.

If it works - then it's on. You'll need to find out what tire pressure your combo likes (probably 12-14psi) and start moving the 2 step up.

Good luck and have fun man!
Yeah I am deffinitly trying what you suggested next time out. Didnt get a chance to go Wednesday next time ill run I will update

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U doing any data logging during the runs??
We did last time I went because my friend has hpt. What Should I check in the logs?
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As other's have said two step needs to be higher.

I think your problem is you are not hitting the tire hard enough to keep it hooked and thus the wheel hop you are getting.

Set that bitch to 6000rpm see what happens. Don't just pop the clutch either give it a quick release and then try to hold the last bit of release point out a bit so it doesn't bog or catch to hard.
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Originally Posted by nocooler
Make the suspension adjustments I suggested.....if not you'll tear something up from the wheel hop.

Set the 2 step to 4500-5000, tires at 12psi cold, and do a nice 2nd or 3rd gear burnout - depends on the rear gear ratio of course. I like 3rd - it get them nice and warm quick.

If it works - then it's on. You'll need to find out what tire pressure your combo likes (probably 12-14psi) and start moving the 2 step up.

Good luck and have fun man!
Smart man here giving good advise. Only change on thing at a time. also oneother thing i dont get is i always started fronts full stiff so on my car 10 clicks. then worked my way down. seems my car likes 3 to 4 from soft. you want the car to slowy hold the hit the m6 brings off the line and then carry the hit and weight as it come's off the line. if your live center and shocks are off it will hook bog fall on it face and then go. or it will just blow the tires off. M6 cars seem to like a stiff rear shock with a very slow rebond. if the shocks are S/A set them to 5 or 6. but try to play with tq arm first and see where it likes it. one step at a time one change at a time.
Old 06-18-2012, 06:59 AM
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Well I wish I could be back with a better update but unfortunately not. I believe a spring in the clutch blew out (second monster stage 3 in 2 years)

Only pass I had the tires were at 14 psi (dropped the pressure after I got to the track with a 30 min cool down)

Tq arm on lower hole lcas on second from the bottom. 2step at 5000. The car rolled on the line hitting the 2step (first sign clutch was going)

Only cut a 2.0 60' but I feel I let the clutch out to fast and rolling probably didnt help but I didnt realize it until I saw the video. I will post a vid later but went to shift to third heard a pop and it locked me out
Old 06-18-2012, 07:49 AM
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Yeah I am definitely going with something different this time around. First clutch had 900 miles on it no track passes before it broke. This one has probably 1500 and 15 track passes.
Old 06-18-2012, 08:43 AM
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That sucks....

I've had nothing but good luck with Monster. My level 3 just died, it was wore out. It's been in the car 4 years and been beat hard. I've got a Monster 11" coming to replace it.
Old 06-18-2012, 09:23 AM
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Yeah who knows maybe im just unlucky with em lol.

The changes though seem to have reduced the wheel hop quite a bit though. I left my camera in my car so whenever I get back to it later tonight I will post the vid.
Old 10-18-2012, 07:11 AM
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Hey guys just to update everyone. It turns out that my input shaft was bent. Most likely damage from shipping. Got everything fixed and went to the track last night.

It was finally hooking up! I got rid of my lightweight flywheel for a steel one and I think that made all of the difference! I am still bogging down off the line though even at 6100. I need a retune. My a/f is way off. I fixed some vacuum leaks and had my 102 ported. When I'm leaving at the power my car should be making ill be in business!

First pass 2step @ 5100 rpm 1.86 60'


Second pass I didnt get a vid. 2step @ 5600 1.78 60'

Third pass 2step @ 6100 1.72 60'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTA1...e_gdata_player



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