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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Im looking to use my stock tank and sending unit. But have a ls6 intake and will be boosted. Can someone or the real racers that have built dual pumps to support 800+ hp and all lines with fittings to the fuel rails and a return.

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edit" lt1 tank with lt1 sending unit. Need pumps for this?
what lines from the filter forward?

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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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I sell a complete turn-key kit for that purpose.
It contains teflon lines & E85 specific filter, plus regulator, rails & all fittings.

I can custom build a kit specifically for your needs, including injectors if desired.
Please call if you want to discuss in more detail.
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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 11:32 PM
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i just convterted all my rubber lines to e85 compatible lines and made sure i had enough injector/pump. But im only making 550 to the tires
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 07:46 AM
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If your stock tank is metal you can't use it as far as I know.
When building your system keep in mind the corrosive nature of E85 will require parts that will prevent damage over time. Also the system will need to be capable of pushing roughly 30% more volume for the E85 as opposed to gasoline fuel for the same hp rating.
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tektrans
If your stock tank is metal you can't use it as far as I know.
When building your system keep in mind the corrosive nature of E85 will require parts that will prevent damage over time. Also the system will need to be capable of pushing roughly 30% more volume for the E85 as opposed to gasoline fuel for the same hp rating.
You have been mislead about the myths of running E85, besides the fact that it does use more fuel.
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxxMitchell
You have been mislead about the myths of running E85, besides the fact that it does use more fuel.
So u r saying it's not corrosive?
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tektrans
So u r saying it's not corrosive?
I'm saying that the stock 4th gen fuel tank and lines will not have an issue. Yes it is slightly more corrosive than gas, but it's absorption of water is what most seem to confuse with corrosiveness and a miss understand between alcohol and methonal.
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Old Aug 31, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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I have seen many people using stock metal tanks for e85 with 0 issues. You will need to upgrade your pumps to e85 compatible and your lines. I would recommend a -8 or -10 feed line and 8 or 6 return line. with a e85 compatible filter.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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Why upgrade the pump but not the tank?
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tektrans
Why upgrade the pump but not the tank?
Exactly, why upgrade the tank if you don't need to!?
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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Maxx looks like he has 4 E85 vehicles so I'm sure he knows a thing or two.

But you have one guy saying stock lines ok, stock tank ok, replace fuel pump, replace injectors etc etc.

Just because someone has never "seen" a problem doesn't mean it's not a problem.
Stainless/plastic tanks and lines, teflon lines, E 85 compatable parts (fuel pumps-injectors etc) are used for a reason.
Truth is getting a stock style E85 compatable tank is a royal pain in the *** and can be a huge expense, especially when you want to use a tank sump and external fuel pump and many people just say **** it.
Stock lines are ok? On what exactly? how much volume can u push thru that small diameter line on a big HP application keeping in mind you need that 30% more volume.

1000 ways to skin a cat I guess.

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Well i don't know much but i do know my guy has been tuning E85 cars for years and has tuned probably 7 out of 10 of the top 10 Car Craft cars for the last 3 years, not too mention has an ethanol plant right in his back yard. So many myths and misconceptions out there and he just laughs at all this crap. Been running high compression E85 on a stock tank and fuel bucket for the last 3 years without any issues so.......
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Old Sep 3, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ramairws6
Well i don't know much but i do know my guy has been tuning E85 cars for years and has tuned probably 7 out of 10 of the top 10 Car Craft cars for the last 3 years, not too mention has an ethanol plant right in his back yard. So many myths and misconceptions out there and he just laughs at all this crap. Been running high compression E85 on a stock tank and fuel bucket for the last 3 years without any issues so.......
Well I have about zero experience in E85 so appears I know dick about it. Lol
If we ever get E85 around here I may consider it myself.
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I have been running E85 for 3 years now, stock steel tank. I run a sump with aeroquip pushlock -10 feed, Y'd into dual -8s, and -8 return. I run stainless element filters, and a fuelab 41402 pump with 83# injectors. I could make about 1000 hp on E85 with this fuel system on my dry nitrous combination.
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
I have been running E85 for 3 years now, stock steel tank. I run a sump with aeroquip pushlock -10 feed, Y'd into dual -8s, and -8 return. I run stainless element filters, and a fuelab 41402 pump with 83# injectors. I could make about 1000 hp on E85 with this fuel system on my dry nitrous combination.
Yes, the stainless filters are a must on the E85 deal
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Originally Posted by tektrans
Well I have about zero experience in E85 so appears I know dick about it. Lol
If we ever get E85 around here I may consider it myself.
I would for surely give it a thought if you have the option. E85 gets a lot of greif and has a lot of myths attached to it. Not saying it doesn't have it's draw backs for sure, but look at it like $8 race gas for $3. The cooling properties are awesome for the high compression deals also
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anybody else?

need to order parts quickly.

Im going to run dual pumps right now for the street without the turbo. Just to tune it and test the new setup. I can run the lines to a corvette filter/regulator then need a line from the filter forward to the line? A return line I need as well with a regulator
pix and part numbers please.
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whats the top 7 or 10 car craft cars????



Can't you just use the stock feed line as the return, and use somthing bigger like -8 or -10 for the feed, or 1/2 ?
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Originally Posted by studderin
whats the top 7 or 10 car craft cars????



Can't you just use the stock feed line as the return, and use somthing bigger like -8 or -10 for the feed, or 1/2 ?
Not sure if your doubtin' but i'll just do this for ya....

http://www.dynotuneusa.com/DynotuneUSA/Photos.html
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What exactly is E85.
Is it 85% ethanol.
Sorry, but I'm ignorant.
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