Bob Cosby

...gotta quick question for you guys. Excepting power adders, is ya'lls criteria pretty much "anything that doesn't touch oil is a bolt-on"?

Thanks for any insight...this "internet ET" thing can be quite entertaining. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

JurisAg02

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bob Cosby:
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Thanks for any insight...this "internet ET" thing can be quite entertaining. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">and your real intentions with this question is what I find entertaining...deny it or not... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

Bob Cosby

Real intentions? Ok. I'd like for guys like 01-Z, Rageman, Wilwaxu, Larry01Z28, Y2k Blackbird, Black Sunshine, etc, to weigh in on my question. So, not knowing what I am denying (or not), did that answer your inquiry?

Fbody Man

U must be a ford guy cause u own 2 fords. Why r u here. GET OUT!!! <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" />

No fords here <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> Bob cosby

Matt Sterbator

Bob USED to own an LS1.

Lane2

Man Bob, looking at your sig. You've got that Cobra flying.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

H82BBad

Oh Bob's a good guy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Dont jump on him like some have jumped on us at other boards.

Bob is a great guy. one of the moderaters on the corral,Puts on a great race (missed it this year)And a credit to our forum.

Mike Hoffpauir

Yeah Bob, the closest thing to an engine modification that is allowed is updating to a 2001 or 2002 intake (LS6 intake).

Other than that, something as simple as a valve spring swap is no longer considered stock internals.

I hope that most stock internal guys could say: (as I could while I was one of them) "The valve covers have never been off the motor".

Bob Cosby

Hi F-body man. Hope you're having a good day. I'm here because I like to drag race, I used to have a 99 T/A, I enjoy the Forum, and I have quite a few friends here. What's your next question?

Thanks for the compliment, Lane2...and right back at ya...plus a couple of tenths. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Mike...tks. One reason for asking is that I have a bit of a friendly rivaly with some of the guys I mentioned above. I intend to try out a different intake, and wanted an opinion from those that like to do the "stock internal" thing if that would cause problems, in their opinion. I never had internal work done on my LS1, so I don't know if the intake 'touches oil' or not. It does not on a DOHC, hence the attempt at clarification....from the internet ET perspective. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

BTW....I'm not using "internet ET" in a bad way. From my perspective, that term is used to describe the ET you flaunt in your internet sig, and was usually obtained under very good conditions. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

WILWAXU

iTrader: (6)

I thought I already answered this <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

You upgrading to a '01 intake isn't much different than a '99 Z28 upgrading to a '01 (ZO6)intake.

For those that haven't figured it out.. Bob is keeping his Cobra to our SI rules... He's not content being the fastest Bolt-on Cobra.. he wants to take out a few LS1's in the process <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ December 15, 2002, 05:50 AM: Message edited by: WILWAXU ]</small>

RAGEman

iTrader: (4)

Hey, lay off Bob, you imbecile. He is a cool guy and he is not "your typical Ford owner." ANYONE is welcome on this board. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

At any rate, the valve covers have never been off my motor and I have an '01 car, so I don't need an intake swap. I remember back in the day when roller rockers were being debated over. But, I think we decided those were internal motor mods. I think a good rule of thumb would be if you have to take the valve covers off or not.

[EDIT]: Bob, your intake swap would be A-OK in my book.

<small>[ December 14, 2002, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: RAGEman ]</small>

promod1955

iTrader: (44)

So Bob, whats up your sleeve? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

JS12

Damn...he left me, lane and v6 bird out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ December 15, 2002, 02:45 AM: Message edited by: JS12 ]</small>

Bob Cosby

You, Lane, V6bird and a few others aren't as noisy as Rageman, Wilwaxu, 01-Z, etc. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

I actually have had a valve cover off my car....at the 2001 NMRA race, tech wanted to verify legality, so we pulled the passenger-side valve cover, did a P&G, and checked the lift on the cams. Don't think that is a big deal though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

As for what is up my sleeve...I'm having an intake done up, getting full-length headers, a tubular front end, some good shocks and struts (likely QA1's), a T5 with scattershield (ya, I said T5), and perhaps one or two other very minor things. I'm going to rev the **** out of it and see what it'll run. Needs more gear, but 4.56's is my street limit. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

98TAauto

iTrader: (2)

hell i wont be on the top list soon if i still am now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> damn cars keep getting faster and faster <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

but anything goes as long as it doesnt require power adders, cam swapping, valve spring changes, and etc etc.. you get the idea. Bascially no motor work other than LS6 intake and headers <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
oh and Bob stop spying on us slow LS1's <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Camaroholic

iTrader: (1)

Hey FbodyMan, you're a freakin' moron. Bob has been hangin out with F-body guys longer than you've had your LS1. I don't think LS1's were even out back then.

(A photo from 5 1/2 years ago, remember that Bob? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> ).

-Andrew

<small>[ December 15, 2002, 09:01 AM: Message edited by: Camaroholic ]</small>

Bob Cosby

Ah...no big deal guys. I hold no grudge against F-body Man. We all make mistakes and say not-so-smart things from time to time. You ought to see some of the fires I have my hands in over at the "other" site right now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Andrew....how ya doin buddy? Hell ya I remember that! Still got that pic on my page too. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Has it been 5 1/2 years? Man...doesn't seem so long ago.

Bob Cosby

LOL. So would I. Tell you what....I'll hook up a 100 shot and see what happens. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

The Juggernaut

iTrader: (7)

Hi Bob.
The way I look at is- You could use a factory intake(untouched)like an 01 if it's better.
But ideally,it would be a stock motor.
ie- no degreeing of the cam(s),no milling or porting of heads,ect.
Untouched from the factory.
But there is no sanctioning body to regulate this.
So,when you go quicker than us,we can say "he has an intake" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
and then we all feel better. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

The 'Black Cloud' will be Flyin' anyways. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

I will be lookin' for you May 31st in Bowling Green
(my car won't be idleing too good) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Sean

Bob Cosby

LOL...I guess you could say that we are our own "sanctioning body". <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

The intake will be a stock 99, but it will not be "untouched". My line of reasoning (for whatever it may be worth) is that because no part of the intake touches oil, working it would be no different than cleaning up a throttle body, or the ports on a set of headers, or the mass-air meter, etc.

I wanted a 01, but few are available, and the 99 was a freebee. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Believe it or not, there is no easy way to change cam timing on these cars. That is one issue that is still being worked on by various builders.

Uh....May 31st in Bowling Green? What's going on then?