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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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I see some of u guys are using ALUM. Russell fittings when looping the lines along with regular braided line.I'm not saying u shouldnt do this way but IMO these fittings are NOT rated for the psi...

I'd run these STEEL fittings instead:
1)Aeroquip FCM2608 16X1.5 #6 Fitting
1)Aeroquip FCM2609 18X1.5 #6 Fitting
1)Aeroquip FCC0603 3FT Teflon #6 Hose
2)Aeroquip FCM1122 90 #6 Hose Ends


This is the way I did mine after looking at the alum ends/fittings and wrong line some guys are using.IMO its a good idea to go this way as I'd hate to see u get power steering fluid all over your front tires at 120+ if your fitting/line failed...

I realize your not under the same psi as a working PS but when u turn the wheel comming down the return road or drive your car on the hwy. it could eventually fracture a line/fitting.

I've converterd my Trans cooler lines this way too.
Just alittle safety info for u guys that like to race your cars....
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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I just connected the factory lines with a plastic connector and hose clamps.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Yikes
God Bless ya bro,but after a hose clamp failed on my trans cooler I said to myself,"I'm done doing this 1/2 ***"
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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JS,
as far as I know there is little to no pressure in the lines once you remove the pump. I had nothing more than a piece of rubber hose slipped over the cut steel lines for a couple of years.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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mine is looped and hose clamped, took 4 seconds. been that way for a few years and hundreds of passes and a few thousand street miles with no signs of problem at all.

good info regardless JS
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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yeah...pressure is non-existant w/o the pump...

looping just allows the fluid to circulate
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Well for 20 bucks more than the alum fittings I'll just do it this way and be able to sleep at night,Just an observation

FWIW,clamps on race cars is BS...
All it takes is one to fail and your in BIG TROUBLE,its your car....
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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Does anyone have a picture of what the heck you all are talkin about?
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I guess i am a risk-taker.lol
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Originally Posted by WhtLT1
Does anyone have a picture of what the heck you all are talkin about?
we are talking about completely removing the Power steering pump. when you do so, there are 2 ports that go into the steering rack. They need to be "looped together" to

1) keep crap out of the system
2) allow some circulation of the fluid
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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On another related topic,

How doe you remove the PS pump and resevoir without destroying it? Do you need a special "GM" tool or just a 3 arm pully puller?
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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just work a box end behind the pump...it'll come out w/o removing the pully.

or...get a PS pulley remover
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Wrench behind pump works just fine
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Just put it between the pump and the block and pry out?

How much force does it take?
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no...use a 15mm and undo the 3 bolts holding the pump/resevoir to the head/engine
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Brian do u know if the Firebird hatch is 30lb lighter than the TA hatch.
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Oh haha I havent looked at it. Thanks guys maybe I will run into you at Cecil!!
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Brian do u know if the Firebird hatch is 30lb lighter than the TA hatch.
the hatches look identical other than the wing...

I can't see the wing being 30 lbs
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Originally Posted by 93LS1RX7
Oh haha I havent looked at it. Thanks guys maybe I will run into you at Cecil!!
I'm there ALOT...

I'm sure you will
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Without the pump, there is equal and opposite pressure and vacuum created by the piston/seals within the rack. Looping the lines together can be as simple as tieing the lines together with a plastic m/m connector and a few clamps. The reason behind this is so that fluid can transfer from one side of the rack to the other while keeping the seals lubricated so seal failure doesn't occur. Only problem with tieing the lines together is you cannot bleed air out of the lines. This can lead to failure of the seals overtime and spongy feeling in the rack from a mixture of air and fluid.

An easy alternative is to keep the reservoir and run both sides of the lines to the reservoir and keep it filled with fluid. This can be easily modified by using standard rubber lines (fluid approved) and run them to each nipple on the reservoir.

Fluid will easily transfer from one side of the rack to the other while purging any air within the system just it was setup stock. Your just removing the power assisted high-pressure introduced from the pump.
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