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Old 08-23-2006, 01:52 PM
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347 ci forged -2 cc,T-rex,pp stage II, 12:1 comp, Fast 90/90, 1 3/4 headers ORY,TH400 with ATI 5500 stall w/o tb,12 bolts ,28*10.5*15....and about 3100-3200 lb......(race only car)

i did a calc. in this link:
http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com/calcs/dragcalc.html

and it says that i should go with 4.74 !!!......i'll rev. it to 7k....

i read that there is about 20% diff. in the RPM...due to TC slipping....is that true???...(the diff will be 1200-1400 RPM)!!!

hope to run 10's N/A

help a guy...

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i run a very similar set up.... except its stock short and 853 heads.
i run the same converter as you and it is very efficent and has very little slip... right at 3% or so. with the 430 and 28 i go through the traps at 6600 or so and thats at 124 mph. give or take 1mph
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Originally Posted by FANTAZ28
i run a very similar set up.... except its stock short and 853 heads.
i run the same converter as you and it is very efficent and has very little slip... right at 3% or so. with the 430 and 28 i go through the traps at 6600 or so and thats at 124 mph. give or take 1mph
what gears u r using??
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430 like stated in my first post
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im running almost the same exact setup as you other than a 4600 stall in a 4l60e and 4:10's in a 8.8" rear end, dont have any times yet tho
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I am runnign a converter that should be about 5000, 4.10 gears and a 27x11.5 hoosier QTP.. should have it all together in the next couple weeks as it goes under the knife this weekend, I'll have reaults soon... although my setup is alot different, a good bit bigger CI, a cam that's a little bigger then a trex, and a heavy car, probably about 3600 with me in it Hopefully it will see 10's na on pump gas.. at least that's the goal.

Will know in a few weeks.
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Originally Posted by FANTAZ28
i run a very similar set up.... except its stock short and 853 heads.
i run the same converter as you and it is very efficent and has very little slip... right at 3% or so. with the 430 and 28 i go through the traps at 6600 or so and thats at 124 mph. give or take 1mph
do you have the parts number fo the ATI TC and where did you buy it from?
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Originally Posted by TNTaddict
347 ci forged -2 cc,T-rex,pp stage II, 12:1 comp, Fast 90/90, 1 3/4 headers ORY,TH400 with ATI 5500 stall w/o tb,12 bolts ,28*10.5*15....and about 3100-3200 lb......(race only car)

i did a calc. in this link:
http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com/calcs/dragcalc.html

and it says that i should go with 4.74 !!!......i'll rev. it to 7k....

i read that there is about 20% diff. in the RPM...due to TC slipping....is that true???...(the diff will be 1200-1400 RPM)!!!

hope to run 10's N/A

help a guy...
i think you should go with the 4.56 with trex and 28" id you want the best ETs or go with 4.3 if you want more MPH and a good ETs.
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Those calculators work pretty good, but for an auto you need to factor in slippage. I run a simular setup T-Rex, 4.30's, 4800 stall, 28" slick, and 3200 race weight now. With 4.30's and a 28" tall tire in third gear you can trap around 125-126 right at the rev limiter of 7000 rpm. If you are planning to mph any higher you need to change something (taller tire or less gear).
With that being said. A 28" tire and 4.56's aren't going to work for you. If you are set on running a 28" tire you may have to do what I'm doing right now and go down a gear to 4.10's.
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my 27's and 4.10's should work out good then I hope, sounds like the middle ground
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Originally Posted by BAIN
Those calculators work pretty good, but for an auto you need to factor in slippage. I run a simular setup T-Rex, 4.30's, 4800 stall, 28" slick, and 3200 race weight now. With 4.30's and a 28" tall tire in third gear you can trap around 125-126 right at the rev limiter of 7000 rpm. If you are planning to mph any higher you need to change something (taller tire or less gear).
With that being said. A 28" tire and 4.56's aren't going to work for you. If you are set on running a 28" tire you may have to do what I'm doing right now and go down a gear to 4.10's.
that seems like a lot of slippage... mine slips under 3% like i said my car goes about 123-124 with a 430 and a 28 and its only at 6550-6600.

as far as where i got it from, i got it direct from ati. call them and talk to them and tell them your intrested in there what i belive they call "stock elimnitor" style converter.

let me know if that helps..
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I have a 4l60e lockup Yank PT-4800. That's probably the reason because if I remember correctly someone told me the 4l60e isn't as efficient as a th350 or th400.

On the dyno my car goes from 380 rwhp unlocked to 425.7 rwhp locked.
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Originally Posted by BAIN
I have a 4l60e lockup Yank PT-4800. That's probably the reason because if I remember correctly someone told me the 4l60e isn't as efficient as a th350 or th400.

On the dyno my car goes from 380 rwhp unlocked to 425.7 rwhp locked.
I just did 421 rwhp unlocked
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thx alot guys.......


FANTAZ28... with 4.30 and 28 u went 123-124 mph.....at 6550-6600.....

so,i think 4.56 with 28 and 5500 will work great if i rev it to 7000-7200.....
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yup if you plan on revving it that high than yeah a 4.56 would be great.
i got a stock shortblock so i try to keep it out of that high of an rpm
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Originally Posted by SUX2BU
I just did 421 rwhp unlocked
I just made 466 rwhp unlocked and 601 ft lbs of peak torque!! he,he

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Originally Posted by tektrans
I just made 466 rwhp unlocked and 601 ft lbs of peak torque!! he,he

yeah but you got a 408... he is cam only......
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Originally Posted by Luis Castellanos
yeah but you got a 408... he is cam only......
Yeah, that cam only set up of his is pretty friggin' impressive.
I'm just excited about my new exhaust and tune, wasn't sayin' any more than that.
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i was not taking anything from you, pure envy

my car is slow as ****..
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Originally Posted by Luis Castellanos
i was not taking anything from you, pure envy

my car is slow as ****..
12.8 in 8000 DA, not so slow my friend!



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