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Old 03-24-2008, 10:04 PM
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Everybody knows the easy weight reduction in the front is removing the bumper support and sway bar, going to a pin-on hood, and lighter k-member, a-arms, brakes, shocks etc. But what do you do when you've already done that? Well you cut, cut, and cut some more. Then you throw in a few pieces of aluminum to tie it all together. It's mind boggling how much each bracket and section of metal adds up in the front end. I cut close to 60lbs off (all in front of the k-member). My estimate for the entire front aluminum support is 8-9 lbs. I will weigh to verify shortly. The radiator is a 22X14 Afco, which weighs about the same as the stock radiator.

I wasn't sure how it would end up, but I hacked away and started brainstorming for ideas to put it back together. With the help of some friends we did a number on it and MAN is it SWEEEEET!

Pictures really do all the talking. This front-end is completely removable in less than 5 minutes, bumper and all right off the front. Talk about engine swap friendly!

It's not quite done. I still have to add a thin sheet to tie in the lower bumper support and keep the air from trapping under the car.

The car should be near driveable in 2 weeks, so updated pics with the engine bay painted are coming shortly.














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holy ****!
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my exact plans as well. take lots of pics!
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Originally Posted by Jantzer98SS
Well you cut, cut, and cut some more.
I like how you think! ! !
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that is awesome!


I've got to rethink what I'm going to do now...
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Wow ... nice work

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my exact plans as well. take lots of pics!
Saw those pics and your name came to mind LOL
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That looks awesome! You keep giving me more and more ideas on how to chop up my 93. That reminds me of 9sec93's car (Old picture):


I might just do this now to my 93. Is it all bolted to the frame? I'd think that the bolts might vibrate out over time. What did you use to secure them?
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Thx for the comments guys!

The frame has nuts welded on the back side where I boxed it in. I will locktite them so they don't back out. The sides, inner fenders, radiator etc. will all have locknuts.

I'm not quite ready for the tube chassis idea yet, although it seems I'm rapidly approaching.

Just a note to anybody that would consider doing something like like. The majority of the weight in the front end (bumper skin, headlights, etc.) is actually supported by the metal coming down the side fenders. It actually takes very little to hold the nose up.
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How are you going to have the top of the bumper attached to your new support? I see tabs there, but they aren't hooked up in any of the pictures. I'd be concerned if you just bolted through the plastic that it would crack or rip. Are you using the factory plastic push pins in there? I'm going to be checking out my 93 tomorrow about how to mock something like this up.

EDIT: I like how you also welded the factory fuel line hole shut.
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Wow awsome, congrats
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dude i really like that! good work!
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I give you guys credit.hardcore mang.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
How are you going to have the top of the bumper attached to your new support? I see tabs there, but they aren't hooked up in any of the pictures. I'd be concerned if you just bolted through the plastic that it would crack or rip. Are you using the factory plastic push pins in there? I'm going to be checking out my 93 tomorrow about how to mock something like this up.

EDIT: I like how you also welded the factory fuel line hole shut.
There are tabs there that I will bolt the nose piece to in 3 places, just under the dzus fittings for the hood. I will use big washers on both sides of the plastic most likely. I'm not kidding when I say, it doesn't take much there. I bet I could drive without pinning them down and it wouldn't go anywhere. Most of the bumper is held up on the sides where it meets the fender/headlight mount. With the solid aluminum brackets I made, that mount is WAY stronger. It doesn't twist and turn easy like the stocker did. Just a little support will be plenty in the front. I also am using a sheet of aluminum to tie the bottom together and keep wind from getting up under the car. That will tie in with the lower support, so the bumper isn't going anywhere. I also have to get a trans cooler figured out and a mounting point for that.
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This looks amazing! Excellent work! I really want to do this to mine...
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That's an intresting way of doing it. Im not sure what your raceweight goals are, but I'd guess that you're aiming to have the absolute lightest car you possibly can, for a run @ the stock internal record.

@ the point you're at, I would seriously run a tube off the 10 pt thru the firewall, across the top of the shock tower and then cut the shock tower out. It would to alot for rigidity of the frame, what is left anyway, and then you could do like 93's car and cut off 99% of the shock tower. Use 90 degree bends there though, it would be stronger
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Nicest I've seen yet. Great piece you made there and damn good looking welds too.
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write up?
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What front hubs are you running? Those look stout.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
That's an intresting way of doing it. Im not sure what your raceweight goals are, but I'd guess that you're aiming to have the absolute lightest car you possibly can, for a run @ the stock internal record.

@ the point you're at, I would seriously run a tube off the 10 pt thru the firewall, across the top of the shock tower and then cut the shock tower out. It would to alot for rigidity of the frame, what is left anyway, and then you could do like 93's car and cut off 99% of the shock tower. Use 90 degree bends there though, it would be stronger
Im shooting for a car weight of 2450. I have a bar off the cage that comes through the firewall and into the back side of the strut tower. I did not want to cut out the towers. There is plenty of weight to save, but Im not ready for that look yet. I'm thinking the motor plate should tie the frame in nicely at the strut towers.

I will do a write-up but it's going to take me some time to put together.
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