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Old 04-18-2008, 07:27 PM
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Figured I would post in here since you guys might know more about this. Since I installed my GZ vacuum pump I have noticed lower oil pressure both at idle and while driving. I tried to watch the gauge as I got on it wot on the street and it seems to only want to go as high as 50 on both the stock and autometer guages. Is 50 enough when taking over 6k? I was always under the impression 10 psi for every 1k rpm?? Thanks for the help.
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How much of a vacuum are u pulling?
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No more than 12 at 6k wot. I know he set the regulator wile holding rpm to 3k. He was reading the vacuum from the dipstick tube.
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when I take the belt off it seems have around 35 psi and with the belt on it only has high 20's low 30's at warm idle. At cruise with it hooked up it has 40 and without the belt it was around high 40's??
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I've used one for 10 plus years, always loose some pressure. That's why on the slow car,
I have the valve set up for extra pin oiling. Before I towed up & back from line, my engine guy made me build it.
Open for driving, warm up, burn out. Closed for pass. Good luck.

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Being that pressure is an indicator of resistence to flow, the addition of a vac system, will reduce this resistence. Thus the lower psig. IE: oil flow into a pressurized container, [the oil pan], takes more psi than the flow into a partially evacuated container.
As mentioned, get the vac too high, and you'll run into problems w/ wrist pin oiling, etc. [Unless the clearances are set considering the vac system use.]
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Originally Posted by Old Geezer
Being that pressure is an indicator of resistence to flow, the addition of a vac system, will reduce this resistence. Thus the lower psig. IE: oil flow into a pressurized container, [the oil pan], takes more psi than the flow into a partially evacuated container.
As mentioned, get the vac too high, and you'll run into problems w/ wrist pin oiling, etc. [Unless the clearances are set considering the vac system use.]

So you are saying I am better off with the lower oil psi and the vacuum pump set at a safe setting? The oil psi was only 50 at 6k at wot. Would this be the same as 65psi without the pump but a pressurized oil pan not breathing properly? Just want to have a safe setup and not hurt anything.

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Next question. They set the vacuum to 5-6 at 3k does that number change as the rpm's increase? I was told it doesn't. But you would think higher the rpm the higher the amount of vaccum it would pull. Thanks again for the help.
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There should be a regulator on the valve cover (Typically). The pressure that it relieves at will stay the same regardless of RPM. As long as it can pull the vacuum to lift the relief.

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Any pics/info on your pump setup?
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Originally Posted by TheBlurLS1
Any pics/info on your pump setup?
Yes but I do not know how to get them up on the site. If you want I can email them to you and you can get up on the site for me if that would work. Thanks for the help guys.
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That would be great, I'll host 'em and post 'em. SpearZ28@Gmail.com

I've been thinking about doing a vacuum system on mine. I make 55-60psi at idle though, so I don't think I'll to worry about my pressure dropping at idle lol.
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Thanks man. I just sent 4 pics to you. 4 different e-mails so it is able to open up.
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As posted above, you need to have a vac guage & watch at all RPM's to make sure it does NOT pull more than 12-14 inches or it pulls the oil off the wrist pins & some from the main journals. What weight & kind of oil are you running? The vac relief valve should be in the opposite valve cover as the pump draws vac from. We run belt driven pumps on all our alky motors & have for years....first the Moroso & then Aerospace (as they sponsor us). The higher the RPM's the higher the negative pressure...so setting it at 5-6 at 3k should be safe, but you won't know until you get a guage to watch it through the run.

Here is a pic...hard to see, but the pump draws from the left side valve cover & the relief valve is on the right (not visable) We use -12 lines for the amount of flow & the catch can needs to be emptied every 3-4 passes depenging on the humidity.

(Alky is a sponge for moisture).

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I am running 5-30 this time around. Normally run 10-40. The kit comes designed to run off the same v. cover the relief valve is on. I am thinking of going back to the heavier oil. What is your opinion that?
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
I am running 5-30 this time around. Normally run 10-40. The kit comes designed to run off the same v. cover the relief valve is on. I am thinking of going back to the heavier oil. What is your opinion that?
If it pulls from the same valve cover then there is no "flushing" of the crankcase, which is needed. I would run 15w50 M1 or equal full syn. That extra barrier is good protection.
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Originally Posted by TLewis4095
If it pulls from the same valve cover then there is no "flushing" of the crankcase, which is needed. I would run 15w50 M1 or equal full syn. That extra barrier is good protection.


I do have a crossover line connecting both valve covers if that makes any difference and I will get some 15-50 next time out. Thank you again for the help.
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Thanks for posting those pics up for me Blur.
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Also, that line you see in the pics going from the pump to v. cover does not come in the kit that way I had a line made up for that with different ends on it so it was a cleaner look then running 90's and 3 foot of hose.


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