Smallish Spartan Spec'd cam/tune makes +80rwhp over bolt ons. Final #'s 409/394
02-04-2009, 04:12 AM
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Not in a 346. Maybe in a larger motor like a 402. Negative 7 degrees of overlap seems to be where cars can pass the sniffer. Some can pass with negative 4 degrees. But the 227/235 113 cam has positive 5 degrees of overlap. Too dirty to pass. Sorry for the hijack Josh.
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2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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02-04-2009, 09:23 AM
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Great torque out of that cam and the peak hp is no joke either for all of the stock parts and full exhaust you're running. BUT I don't care how much hp people say that Pacesetter ORY loses, it fits PERFECT; ten times better than any other y-pipes I've seen without going to a custom exhaust setup. That's worth a few horses to me. 
Still, killer results out of that cam. If I was looking for a setup like my current one, I'd just skip the LS6 heads and go with a cam-only using that cam.
Still, killer results out of that cam. If I was looking for a setup like my current one, I'd just skip the LS6 heads and go with a cam-only using that cam.
02-04-2009, 11:56 AM
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BUT I don't care how much hp people say that Pacesetter ORY loses, it fits PERFECT; ten times better than any other y-pipes I've seen without going to a custom exhaust setup. That's worth a few horses to me.
02-04-2009, 02:06 PM
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Thanks Pat, How much overlap does that 228/232 have? Sorry about the hijack Josh.
02-04-2009, 02:26 PM
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110LSA 10 degrees at .050"
111LSA 8
112LSA 6
113LSA 4
114LSA 2
115LSA 0
116LSA -2
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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02-04-2009, 07:36 PM
#29
Can you get these numbers out of most LS1s? I know all engines are different but for most of them. Also, If you went up to say a 234 or 236 duration you could get higher HP numbers? Maybe 420hp/400tq? IDK too much about cams, i know the very basics only really. I'm just doing some research, lol.
02-05-2009, 08:57 AM
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what would it make through a 12 bolt? i may have just found my next cam
Can you get these numbers out of most LS1s? I know all engines are different but for most of them. Also, If you went up to say a 234 or 236 duration you could get higher HP numbers? Maybe 420hp/400tq? IDK too much about cams, i know the very basics only really. I'm just doing some research, lol.
FWIW, this car was STREET TUNED, NOT DYNO TUNED. So, it's tuned to run it's max potential on the street, not on the dyno.
The cam is on a 112, ICL is 108.
02-05-2009, 01:18 PM
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I built a similar setup earlier last year that made 409/380 through a 12 bolt/steel DS/18inch wheels, stock headed 02 car.
I wouldn't say the #'s are typical, but they're not hard to achieve. Going up in duration doesn't always mean bigger HP #'s. I've swapped out smaller cams for bigger ones, and actually lost power. All depends on the combination.
FWIW, this car was STREET TUNED, NOT DYNO TUNED. So, it's tuned to run it's max potential on the street, not on the dyno.
The cam is on a 112, ICL is 108.
I wouldn't say the #'s are typical, but they're not hard to achieve. Going up in duration doesn't always mean bigger HP #'s. I've swapped out smaller cams for bigger ones, and actually lost power. All depends on the combination.
FWIW, this car was STREET TUNED, NOT DYNO TUNED. So, it's tuned to run it's max potential on the street, not on the dyno.
The cam is on a 112, ICL is 108.
Alright, thanks for the answer. I'll keep that info in mind.
I'm starting to like shops in GA more and more, lol.
02-05-2009, 04:12 PM
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Sorry bro, I missed this one. I do not sell cams, as I'm not a retail facility. I just call and have this grind ordered as needed for my customer.
Between myself, Vengeance and ATLPF we get **** done roun' hurr 
I'm starting to like shops in GA more and more, lol.
02-15-2009, 09:04 AM
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This setup is pretty simple, with a lot left in it but the customer wanted a basic setup with perfect driveability. His requests were at least 380 rwhp, and daily drivable. All #'s were made through FULL exhaust. No cutout.
Details:
-02 T/A M6
-Pacesetters w/ Junk Pacesetter Y-pipe
-Magnaflow catback
-Spartan Spec'd 228/232 cam
-Comp 918 Single Springs. Lift on BOTH sides is BELOW .600
-Stock 241 heads
-Stock LS6 intake
-Stock ported TB
-Stock MAF
Car drives smooth as silk. Valvetrain is quiet, and this cam can run on 918's all day/year long with no problems.
*Cam dyno by itself. #'s are SAE*
*Comparison between bolt ons, and Cam swap gains*
Details:
-02 T/A M6
-Pacesetters w/ Junk Pacesetter Y-pipe
-Magnaflow catback
-Spartan Spec'd 228/232 cam
-Comp 918 Single Springs. Lift on BOTH sides is BELOW .600
-Stock 241 heads
-Stock LS6 intake
-Stock ported TB
-Stock MAF
Car drives smooth as silk. Valvetrain is quiet, and this cam can run on 918's all day/year long with no problems.
*Cam dyno by itself. #'s are SAE*
*Comparison between bolt ons, and Cam swap gains*
02-15-2009, 05:37 PM
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Damian, very nice results with the combo of mods he has.
I am running the pretty much the same set-up but am also runnin with 4.10s we bill going with some CNC'd 241 heads, and have a custom ORY w/ the flowmster merge.
Do you think 400rwtq is doable?
The car isn't a DD but the 400 mark is my goal. I've been looking at the Torquer 3, but your customers car is almost there on this cam, and I'm think I might be ablt to hit it. What do you think?
I am running the pretty much the same set-up but am also runnin with 4.10s we bill going with some CNC'd 241 heads, and have a custom ORY w/ the flowmster merge.
Do you think 400rwtq is doable?
The car isn't a DD but the 400 mark is my goal. I've been looking at the Torquer 3, but your customers car is almost there on this cam, and I'm think I might be ablt to hit it. What do you think?
02-16-2009, 11:52 PM
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Do you think 400rwtq is doable?
The car isn't a DD but the 400 mark is my goal. I've been looking at the Torquer 3, but your customers car is almost there on this cam, and I'm think I might be ablt to hit it. What do you think?
The car isn't a DD but the 400 mark is my goal. I've been looking at the Torquer 3, but your customers car is almost there on this cam, and I'm think I might be ablt to hit it. What do you think?
......On a serious note, you should be able to hit 400 rwhp no problem, even without the CNC heads. As stated above this car made 409 through FULL exhaust, no cutout on a STREET tune. Which is not setup to make the prettiest dyno number, but setup to run the best # on the street.
Whats the lift on the cam Josh? I see it have 4* overlap.
Do you think this kind of power is obtainable with 853 heads?
Do you think this kind of power is obtainable with 853 heads?
I can't say for sure you could make this exact power on 853's, because I haven't had the chance to try it yet with THIS cam but 400 rwhp with 853's isn't hard to do. There isn't this huge astronomical difference between an 853 and a 241 like the internet makes it out to be.
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This setup is pretty simple, with a lot left in it but the customer wanted a basic setup with perfect driveability. His requests were at least 380 rwhp, and daily drivable. All #'s were made through FULL exhaust. No cutout.
Details:
-02 T/A M6
-Pacesetters w/ Junk Pacesetter Y-pipe
-Magnaflow catback
-Spartan Spec'd 228/232 cam
-Comp 918 Single Springs. Lift on BOTH sides is BELOW .600
-Stock 241 heads
-Stock LS6 intake
-Stock ported TB
-Stock MAF
Car drives smooth as silk. Valvetrain is quiet, and this cam can run on 918's all day/year long with no problems.
*Cam dyno by itself. #'s are SAE*
*Comparison between bolt ons, and Cam swap gains*
Details:
-02 T/A M6
-Pacesetters w/ Junk Pacesetter Y-pipe
-Magnaflow catback
-Spartan Spec'd 228/232 cam
-Comp 918 Single Springs. Lift on BOTH sides is BELOW .600
-Stock 241 heads
-Stock LS6 intake
-Stock ported TB
-Stock MAF
Car drives smooth as silk. Valvetrain is quiet, and this cam can run on 918's all day/year long with no problems.
*Cam dyno by itself. #'s are SAE*
*Comparison between bolt ons, and Cam swap gains*