Shawn @ VA Speed

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it's a low 240's cam on a 113-not that duration really means anything as far as sound or driveability.

i never said i didn't know what the heads flow-i just have no idea who ported them.The cam was optimized for the whole combination-just like every other setup we do,I do not use the same cam for anything-every combination is different and needs a different cam.

everybody gets pissed off when we don't give away the whole combination,the whole point of the thread was that you can make a decent running engine on a budget with parts that most people say won't make power.

ChucksZ06

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People are idiots who expect you guys to give out all that you know. Go ask Intel the manufacturing inovations they currently use... Do not tell them, I love to hear these guys whine. Great work.

allngn_c5

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I hear ya on not giving away the farm. This thread is a good advertisement for VA Speed though. It really shows that they can make a ton of power even with a budget setup. Again Good job.

bigdsz

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Wow, I don't understand the reluctance to post up all the good info. I made 524/501 with 7 year old 5.3 heads, 1 3/4 jet hots, and a power robbing 9", steel DS and HEAVY MT DR's. It's all in my description below, why hide anything?

allngn_c5

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Competition is the only reason I can think of for being secretive. You don't want to invest time in something that works and just give the formula away for free so anyone else can just take your work and copy it 100%, gotta leave a little something to the imagination. If I was a shop owner I'd probably do what VA Speed did too. Simply advertise the results and hope that it encourages potential customers to call and / or come to the shop and spend some money. JMO.

Shawn @ VA Speed

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it's not about hiding anything.It's not fair to the owner who had to pay to get this combo,for me to give away what he had to pay for.

allngn_c5

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I never thought about it like that.

edcmat-l1

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Seriously? If you must know, we're in business to build cars, and sell parts. We're not in business to develop parts to give away. While some may give away complete details of a build, specifically cam specs, for others it's not in their best interest. Why would we give away proven, developed cam specs so everyone can go out and get them ground by someone else?

If anyone really wants the cam specs, they're for sale for 405 bucks. Free cam included!

PREDATOR-Z

Nice, IMO the heads are good ones, the VJ massage must have been a plus, add good overlap and valve events and you have a good recipe.
From experience the most crutial component in engine combo are the heads then the cam.
Also let us give credit to the tuner, like a master Chef adding the right spices

chrs1313

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i understand where you are coming from but for $25 i can have it cam doctored and your secret cam specs run is over...so you sold one cam and made how much margin...also i could resell the cam for 90%+ of what i bought it for...

98Z28CobraKiller

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That's enough info to know that it's a medium size cam with decent manners (IMO).

Sorry to get the natives all stirred up. Those are real decent results.

edcmat-l1

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And it's statements like that that validate the reasons we don't give them away. Some people think they are entitled.

john563

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Great work guys!! Its encouraging for me as I plan on using my stage 2.5 5.3 heads when I step up in cubes..

dlc1609

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How dare you work hard and develop a cam that makes great power and then not want to give away the specs for free to everyone who is jealous.... =) ?

BTW: Nice numbers for this car! I bet the owner is very happy.

smok'nZ

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so everyone can go out and get them ground by someone else?

If anyone really wants the cam specs, they're for sale for 405 bucks. Free cam included![/QUOTE]



why would they get it ground somewhere else? is it cheaper other places? do you guys not stay competitive with other shops prices?

78novacaine

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why would they get it ground somewhere else? is it cheaper other places? do you guys not stay competitive with other shops prices?[/QUOTE]

if you were a shop would you not charge more to custom spec a cam that works extremely well and then grind it than if you were to just grind a cam on someone else's specs? imho you are paying also for the time, research, and thought that the cam designer has put into your combo personally and developed a cam to optimize that setup.

blu1

Nice job guys, that thing is begging for a Fast!

lilbuddy1587

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NOOOO, NOOO, 408's DON'T MAKE THAT KIND OF POWER WITHOUT FAST INTAKES, 5" HEADERS, TFS HEADS AND GIGANTINORMOUSREGODDAMNFUCKINGDICULOUS CAMS!

SMOKE AND MIRRORS I TELL YOU!

lilbuddy1587

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Yes sir


Damn skippy!

WKMCD

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DAMN!!!! You guys act like you're trying to turn a profit. You could learn something from our President and just give everything away.