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Old 12-29-2009, 08:41 PM
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Default Cam only, full bolt ons... surprising numbers!

I just finished my build in my apt garage and got some pretty interesting numbers.

1998 Camaro- 410rwhp 370ftlbs

Engine: (out of 01 camaro)
-MS3 237/241 .603 .609 on a 112 LSA
-LS6 intake
-fully ported TB
-.650 springs
-TR pushrods
-SLP lid w/K&N filter
-SLP ram-air
-Hooker LT's
-X-pipe with dumps before axle
-160* stat
-ARP bolts throughout
-LS2 timing chain
-Melling pump
-BONE STOCK HEADS

4.10 gears
LCA bars
SFC
315 rears w/ heavy 11" wide ZR1
Hurst
!EGR
!AIR
!rear 02
coolant bypass

I was barely able to finish everything in time, in fact i had a few twerks to iron out when i got to to the tuner. Who by the way is PBJ (performance by Joe). I would highly recommend him to anyone in the St. Louis area!

I was asking him about differences in Dyno numbers and he informed me that he is running 20% load on his dynojet, and most people run anywhere from 11%-17%. I guess the reason for such high percentage is becuase of all the high boost builds he does (like his near 2000 rwhp Viper).

I was very surprised at the 370 ft lbs with 4.10 gears!!!! Does anyone else find this surprisingly high???
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Sounds right to me. My friend has an F14, stock LS6 intake, and u/d pulley and made 410/395, so you are around what you should be. Congrats!
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she seems to run pretty healthy man... I'm hoping to pull those numbers when I get all those mods.... HOPE she pulls good numbers at the track to
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370 is average. I put down 363 with a 220/220 cam through a 12 bolt and a twin disk.

Do you have a graph?
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congrats nie numbers. is that ur daily driver?
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numbers in sig with 4:10's in a DD
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Great numbers! The torque looks to be right where it should be.

Gonna get some track numbers in the spring or do you have more mods lined up for it before then?
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sounds about rite. good numbers. i put down 377wrtq through my 9inch and steel driveshaft ona mustang dyno
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Good numbers, looks like they are right around where they should be given the mods.
Did you have dyno'd prior to the swap to see what you actually picked-up....before vs. after?
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Nice numbers look good to me. I am very close to that my self.
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Good numbers! It's not a high reading dyno, I know that because I could barely muster a measly 305 to the wheels out of a 6 liter and headers! Joe's def. a great guy
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sounds right to me. Your numbers are near my MS3/bolt on only setup.

412rwhp/381 rwtq.
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very nice, my cam only setup did 420rwhp and 405 flbs
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Good numbers from an LS1 with 4.10's, especially with no head work.
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Yes this is my daily driver, not for too much longer hopefully i can get a lil pick em up truck to stack miles on.

Soon i will be getting a Moser rear and textrilia clutch before she goes to the track.
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Full boltons should include and EWP and UD pully, just busting your ***** man!!

Anyways you did a pretty damn good job. Glad to see you did the work yourself. I wish I could do more then fluid changes, and plug/wire swaps. LOL.
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very nice. cant wait to see what my MS4 cam only + bolt ons puts down in the spring
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Full boltons should include and EWP and UD pully, just busting your ***** man!!

Anyways you did a pretty damn good job. Glad to see you did the work yourself. I wish I could do more then fluid changes, and plug/wire swaps. LOL.
hahaha, i tell ya what... sponser the parts and ill gladly put em on! It was a tough build... especially in a tight little apartment garage and just a shop crane and jack!
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Originally Posted by stangbeaterz28
hahaha, i tell ya what... sponser the parts and ill gladly put em on! It was a tough build... especially in a tight little apartment garage and just a shop crane and jack!
You did see the part where I said just busting your ***** ?

Anyways, adding those parts won't add much rwhp, but they do let the engine rev a lot quicker and you'll love the bump in gas mileage if you drive your car on trips like I do. My 346 on a 1200 mile trip (Dallas to Detroit) did 34.5 mpg on one tank (actual mileage, display was reading 38-40 the entire drive!) and 34 mpg on the other. Now that I've got a 402 (see sig) she still manages 27 mpg, confirmed on a trip from Atlanta, Ga area *Vengeance Racing, to Metro Detroit.

Tell ya what, when I hit the lotto, I'll sponsor your next build, provided you have it built by Vengeance Racing using a Pro Line short block of your choice. LOL. Good job though.
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haha, if your funding it ill go with whatever you wanna buy as long as its go fast parts lol

Ill be driving this back and forth from St. louis to Cape Giradeu where i go to school, about 2 hours so we'll see how i do next time on gas.


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