02_camaroz28

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There point of this was they were a bunch of import guys telling me how im an idiot for even thinking about building my domestic, heavy, V8 car. They know guys with 1000whp civics, evos, and sti's that were build on a $10,000 budget. One of the guys said he has rode in one and saw it on the dyno and knows it cost less than 10 grand for the whole car. Another guy also said he can make 8 or 9 hundred whp with his stock Golf for $4500. One of the guys also said that he would use the stock fuel pump on his civic and stock tranny and clutch and make a couple dyno runs to put down 1000whp and then make a couple passes guarented before the stock tranny would go out. This is with a t3/t4 and one guy claimed he could do it on pump gas also. I also had two guys (they just happen to own hondas) get in my face and try to fight me over this whole ordeal. So after an hour or so of argueing I had 6-7 guys butt-hurt and mad because i called BS on them building a 1000whp car for 10 stacks and one guy ready to drive back home and get his daddys 850hp supra to outrun my lid only Z28...

Phantom_LS2

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Do yourself a favor and never talk to those ******* again. Not worth your breath or time...

02_camaroz28

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Yea, I laughed and was having a good time asking them questions and acting interested for a while. Then people started taking shots at me and it started to get heated but all in all there the ones that are building cars on hopes and dreams and im here in reality knowing that im not going to be building any 1000whp cars anytime soon and im perfectly ok with that Lol

ssfast99

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408 ci iron short block from vedor = $3675
vendor stage 3 6.0 heads = $1825
headers and intake = $2500
misc = $1000
nitrous = $1000

TOTAL = $10,000

watching all the honda guys go running out of the dyno shop after the dyno hits 1000whp for 1.3 seconds then a large explosion and fire everywhere = PRICELESS

horsepower cost a lot of money

for everything else theres honda stupidity and mastercard.

xZZx

No way in hell would you be able to do that with an Import. The cars themselves are pretty expensive not to mention the starting point you would be at with their low hp numbers.

Maybe, a big fat maybe, you could do it with a domestic. And yeah even that is leaning towards a no. I mean you can agree that dollar for dollar you are usually gonna yield better results with domestics. Mod for mod even.

I hate import kids like that......... >_>

ScreaminRedZ

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On top of everything else, even if they could somehow make 1000 reliable wheel hp for $10,000 and they're still gonna get **** slapped up and down the track by the guy who took the same $10,000 and spread it out so that the car would be usable, rather than just put it all toward power.

WS-Sick

All of the turbo kits I've seen for hondas are cheaper than anything I've seen for f-bodies, but 10k for 1000whp...I say something will break almost instantly if it's possible. I may be wrong though. On a side note..."The cars themselves are pretty expensive"...honda's are economy cars for the most part dude, what are you talking about?

lemons12

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Do yourself a favor and stop talking to them.. I use to do it with the ricers in my town for the hell of it and some laughs. It gets old REAL quick, it is as they are unable to process and learn new/true information.

DunnoWhoThisIs

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Gah i hate hard core import guys.. they say they can do it with stock clutch, stock tranny and on pump gas?? i mean really.. how stupid do you have to be to realize that you just cant do that.. maybe if you already have the car, with supporting mods, and then throw 10k into the motor.. MAYBE.. i kinda doubt it would last because it would be torchered with large amount of boost and or nitrous.. IF you could some how get deals on all the parts to do it.. yeah maybe you can throw 10k to a 2j and get it out of it im not sure.. but general ricers (aka the stupid *** 4cyl retards that run around slippin the clutch and revin up cuz they think they look badass..) that is most likely not possible.. not sayin they couldnt do it.. but most likely not..

InsaneDomestics

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Ok Ok, Only one way to settle this. Someone give me the $10K and I'll see what I can come up with

E-Works

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am i the only one who thinks it can be done via turbo???

iron block 6.0 - 500-1000
good used rods and pistons - 500
pyramid rings and block machine work- 1000
317 heads that came with 6.o machine work & lightweight hardware- 1000
stock crank ploished -100
super victor- 350
gaskets bearings etc - 300
borg warner large frame s4xx or something - 1000
truck manifolds-50
ebay intercooler kit - 300
watsegate -200
150 shot nitrous kit - 250
c&s blowthru carb or injectors and 4150 t body /factory pcm - 1600
cam - 350
misc parts - 500
grand total so far ???? under 10 k forsure guys

still have around 2 k or so to spend


25 lbs of boost with a 75 0r a 100 shot

1000 horsepower forsure


anyone think differently?


iron block already proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock crank proven to withstand 1000 hp
stock casting heads have made over 1000 hp

lemons12

iTrader: (71)

You don't have anywhere near enough fuel to feed a monster.
You still don't have a tune.
Springs/push rods/etc etc etc..
Wasn't the iron block that made that power on an engine dyno? Don't believe that was Rwhp. Same thing with the crack. Could be wrong though.

Like I said, if it that could be done for 10k, we would have tons of them running around. ****, if that was the case 75% of us would have 700+Rwhp cars.
Has anyone seen a "budget build" 1000Rwhp LsX? I sure haven't. There is no cheap way there.

02_camaroz28

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Im not talking about putting together a motor that would put down 1000 hp. Thats why i made WHP very clear. I know honda parts are on the cheap but i still doubt this especially since the parts for our cars are a lot more expensive. Just like the guys at my school failed to mention. I dont see a fuel pump, tranny, clutch/converter, and the only valvetrain parts you have listed are the cam. Plus im assuming your gonna put this through a stock driveshaft and 10 bolt??? I havent build a lot of cars and maybe I dont know much but your no where close to having a car that will make a pass or even make a dyno run with the above parts list^

"1000 hosrsepower forsure... I think differently"

E-Works

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3 walboro 255's will more than handle that horsepower - 300

my buddy has only 2 - 255s and has made 983 at the wheels ( 2003 cobra twin 57mm's completely stock engine , cover of 5.0 magazine next month for KOTS. white vert )

it was like 1350 at the crank if ur thinking of the same thread where he used stock block crank and heads

pushrods used -200

dyno tune -500

still have a thousand to go bro....................




it can be done . most people spend the money in the wrong spots

and i guess u giuys didnt see the part where i said 1k for head hardware . hardware would mean springs retainers locks valves etc...

lemons12

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I believe you are in a fantasy world. Spend the money in the wrong spots? Do you know how many dedicated racers there are on this site? I highly doubt 10k would get them 1000Rwhp (through a drive train). That is if you had a bone stock drivetrain which is NOT going to happen. First launch/WOT run/dyno, **** would start flying real quick.

Again, if it only costs 10k, why don't more people have them on here? 1000Rwhp cars are far and few between and there are some pretty serious cars on here. You could hit 700-800Rwhp with that.. But that extra 200-300Rwhp is going to take a LOT to get there. Just like going from 8.8 to 8.5.

E-Works

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well go thru the for sale section and add up the parts you could buy for the build

do it all used parts or parts for sale new that someone never used. add assembling the engine your self for free

machine work

dyno tuning

yes i agree you would need a turbo 400 and converter and a 12 bolt but these are on here all the time for a dime a dozen man

hell just to put things in perspective you could buy a totalled vehicle and part it out and use the engine and pcm and harness and sell the rest of the parts and get your starting point for free

10k is a big budget for most people and i think if u had the car already it could be done

if you didnt have the car it wouldnt happen

add the stuff up and go from there

this should be interesting

02_camaroz28

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Tranny, Rearend, Converter, driveshaft and you have no nitrious controllers???? What about rod, main, and head bolts??? and you only have a thousand left sir...

"1000 horsepower forsure... I STILL think differently"

DunnoWhoThisIs

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like i said if you have a vehicle with all supporting mods, and have 10k to spend on a motor alone, you may be able to do it if your good with finding deals, and know the recipe.. otherwise.. most ppl its not gonna happen.. like i said i have around 14k-15k in my car in just parts alone hardly any labor involved in that cuz i do most of my own stuff other than machine work.. and i still dont have a rear end im making around 500rwhp.. and i didnt spend money in the wrong spots..

E-Works

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misc parts 500= bolts etc......

nitrous controller of what? hit a button ! ur only spraying a 75 shot for air charge cooling!
tranny and converter u can find for 1 k all day used


you guys need to be realistic and start adding stuff up used

it can be done

lemons12

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You think a 12 bolt is going to hold 1000Rwhp? Do you even have an idea of what kind of tuning it would require to make 1000Rwhp "safe"?
I had a buddy with a fully paid for car so basically had a "free" starting point. He put around an extra 15-20k in his car and spraying a 300 shot was right at 800Rwhp.. He had no where near enough support fuel wise to go to 1000Rwhp.

My god, you have ZERO idea what it takes to build a high HP car. I don't either but I have a MUCH better idea than you do. We aren't talking some rinky dink H/C ls1, we are talking a 1000Rwhp MONSTER!

You are talking about USED parts and normal off the shelf parts for a 1000Rwhp build. I sure as **** wouldn't invest in something like that, no way no how. And you are shooting for 1000Rwhp through a stalled turbo 400.

You *think* it can be done. Show me ONE person that has done it.


Let me ask you this... How many cars have you built period?