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Old 02-17-2010, 09:03 PM
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Cool 490/570 H/C/N2O through TH400

Had my car dynoed last week and it made 433RWHP/489RWTQ on motor and 490RWHP/570RWTQ on spray. Mods are: TR custom cam speced by predator-z, TSP-PRC 5.3 stg 2.5 heads, TH400, custom 4000 stall by FTI, TNT F2, 3.73 gears, LS6 intake and Full bolt-ons.

I would like to thank Mark "Predator-z", Patrick G "TR", John Janz "TSP", Greg "FTI" and every one support me.

Pretty happy with the numbers since it was through TH400 with 4K stall, 3.73 gears, stock hi mileage bottom-end(170K miles) and 18" wheels. What do you think guys?

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torque is very impressive, good numbers
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Great numbers Mabrook man,,

How much nitrous I love the TQ From the nitrous but the HP is a low..

Any dyno graph??
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Torque is a spike from the converter.

Good HP numbers otherwise.
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What size shot?
only picked up 57hp on spray? ... hope it was a 50 shot. lol
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Originally Posted by venom ws7
Great numbers Mabrook man,,

How much nitrous I love the TQ From the nitrous but the HP is a low..

Any dyno graph??
Thanks homey, I'll upload the graph soon. Yeah the TQ was impressive compared to the HP.
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Originally Posted by bighamz28
torque is very impressive, good numbers
Thanks,,
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
Torque is a spike from the converter.

Good HP numbers otherwise.
The TQ jumped high when it hits 4K this was due to the 4K stall and the nitrous was activated on 4K too, I'm thinking to advance it a little to ~4100-4200 rpm to make a gap between the nitrous and the stall. What do you think?
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
What size shot?
only picked up 57hp on spray? ... hope it was a 50 shot. lol
It supposed to be 100 shot but I surprised of it even the tuner asked me if I'm sure that it is a 100 shot, the previous owner of the kit told my that the jets on it is a 100 and he gave me the 200 and the 300. I have to check them again if they really 100 jets or not. the problem that TNT is out of the business and I don't know how could I check the size of the jets since I don't have the specs cards.
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Originally Posted by SUPER_CHEVY
It supposed to be 100 shot but I surprised of it even the tuner asked me if I'm sure that it is a 100 shot, the previous owner of the kit told my that the jets on it is a 100 and he gave me the 200 and the 300. I have to check them again if they really 100 jets or not. the problem that TNT is out of the business and I don't know how could I check the size of the jets since I don't have the specs cards.
Dual nozzle TNT kit with a 100 shot should make 125hp to the wheels.
If it doesnt the tune isnt close.

Regardless of the kit anything with 100 shot should NOT make 57hp.
Something is not right, post up the jetting.
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Dual nozzle TNT kit with a 100 shot should make 125hp to the wheels.
If it doesnt the tune isnt close.

Regardless of the kit anything with 100 shot should NOT make 57hp.
Something is not right, post up the jetting.

Im gonna check the jets tomorrow and ill post it here.

Do you think theat the problem might be on the tune or what??
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oh, I forgot to post the cam spec

231/240 .643/.608 112+4
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Originally Posted by SUPER_CHEVY
Im gonna check the jets tomorrow and ill post it here.

Do you think theat the problem might be on the tune or what??
Would be my 1st guess.
Can you post the dyno sheet with A/F on it?
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NA numbers are strong. Cam is a good nitrous grind. I suspect low bottle pressure or blowing through the converter on nitrous.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
NA numbers are strong. Cam is a good nitrous grind. I suspect low bottle pressure or blowing through the converter on nitrous.
Thanks Patrick, I have the bottle heater but it was not plugged yet, Do you think that I'm gonna see a reasonable gains if its on the bottle? And regarding the blowing through the converter, how could I solve this issue in you opinion?

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I read the link. I dont believe that you can blow through that converter on the jug with 100. We spray those converters all the time with 300-400. we have bean 8.70's in an f body with the same converter with a 440 lsx and 400 kit weighing 3200 with a 373 gear. the torque numbers are good because the converter multiplies torque. I would suggest it may be in the tune or tire spin on the dyno. generaly a dyno wont show all of the hp because of converter slip and no transfer of momentum although I would expect to see a bigger number than 57 if the jets and tune are correct.

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Can you post up a dyno chart of the run? That could tell us alot more about where the missing power might be. It could be that the intake/exhaust is too restrictive, that engine needs to breathe. But a dyno chart will tell us more...
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here are the dyno charts,, sorry for being late

Best N/A run "open cutout"



Best nitrous run "open cutout"

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Those are actually decent numbers for a H/C thru a loose stall and th400. Yeah, the low nitrous run just could be either jetting or low bottle pressure.
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Its pretty rich. how much timing is in on the bottle?



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