2011 5.0 Mustang Dyno
04-03-2010, 12:38 PM
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I think I read where the firing order was changed which would be too bad since it was responsible for the best stang feature IMO: THE SOUND! Like them or not, the V8 Fords always had a pretty sweet sound. Anyway, way to go Ford........as long as its American, I can appreciate it.
04-03-2010, 12:43 PM
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I am excited about seeing these on the road. Will be nice to see more competition. As far as actual power or how well they mod we will just have to wait and see.
Remember there is always hype about a new product. Seems like I remember hype about how the Shelby GT500's were going to kill z06's when they were in this stage of time/release.
Remember there is always hype about a new product. Seems like I remember hype about how the Shelby GT500's were going to kill z06's when they were in this stage of time/release.
04-03-2010, 05:53 PM
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What did your Cobra trap?
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04-03-2010, 06:48 PM
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But did you see the write up on the car they had to add all those extra option to the car to get it the run 12.8 and that was not a base model car.I want to see what a base model GT runs against the SS.The one they tested was a $39,000 car to add all options when the SS base models all ready has all the extras added to the GT.But i do say they finally did a great job and its about time.
04-05-2010, 11:19 PM
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This isnt always true. I think it depends on the dyno. Ive used a Superflow Chassis Dyno and it doesnt matter what gear you pull it in. I did 2nd and 3rd gear pulls back to back and it didnt make any difference. I just got more data points in 3rd gear.
04-05-2010, 11:46 PM
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When you really look at it at the end of the day the performance they're getting out of the new 5.0 is WITH headers and 4-valve heads, now take a LS motor and add better heads and headers and it wakes up! I think the new 5.0 will be great for FI but it won't respond much to N/A mods, you may pick up a few hp with a less restrictive exhaust setup and maybe a free flowing intake setup but it really looks like they built this engine for boost!!!
04-06-2010, 08:28 AM
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Just imagine how much H/C would cost.. 
The intake is a composite 80/83 setup. It's about g-d time they ditched the twin throttle plate deal.
New 5.0 heads.
The intake is a composite 80/83 setup. It's about g-d time they ditched the twin throttle plate deal.
New 5.0 heads.
04-06-2010, 09:12 AM
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04-06-2010, 10:15 AM
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When you really look at it at the end of the day the performance they're getting out of the new 5.0 is WITH headers and 4-valve heads, now take a LS motor and add better heads and headers and it wakes up! I think the new 5.0 will be great for FI but it won't respond much to N/A mods, you may pick up a few hp with a less restrictive exhaust setup and maybe a free flowing intake setup but it really looks like they built this engine for boost!!!
04-07-2010, 01:50 PM
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What makes the 2011 gt more appealing is your getting 412hp with a nice tq curve, in a 3500lb car. Obviously mod motors cost more to mod and obviously the ls3 makes great power. Ask yourself a question...If you were given the option to choose between a 5th gen ss or a 11 gt, what would you pick? Id would say the 11gt. For one it will be quicker, power to weight tells it ALL! The mustang has a solid axle, and will be much easier on the drivetrain. This thread is about comparing the car not just the engine. Ford stepped up on the WHOLE platform. Gm stepped up with the ls3, then stepped back down when they put it in a 4000lb boat w/ a IRS...enough said!
the SS is only about 300 lbs heavier but still has the ***** to make it as fast as the GT. so obviously the SS is more powerful.
who gives a **** about the solid axle besides drag racers? news flash, drag racers arent the only ones that buy cars! the only thing the GT has going for it is the engine. the car itself is hideous. ill take the 4000lb boat stuffed with an LS3 that has room for potential at a resonable cost rather than the back to the future concept ford is trying to pull with the new GT that has an already taxed out motor. (if not, an arm and a leg project to get half the power you can with an LS3 for half the cost.)
04-07-2010, 06:43 PM
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You say that like it's no big deal...I'm curious if you do it with a straight face (hard to tell through the computer). The GTO's came out weighing 3725 and everyone flipped out saying they were fat pigs. Then the GT500's came out in the 3900 lbs range and they caught nothing but **** from the GM guys. Now that the Camaro weighs that much it's suddenly ok, though...
They are the only ones that matter
They are the only ones that matter
04-07-2010, 06:45 PM
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first off, curb weight is over 3600lbs on the GT, which when you add the driver, and a full tank of gas or whatever, your pushin 4k.
the SS is only about 300 lbs heavier but still has the ***** to make it as fast as the GT. so obviously the SS is more powerful.
who gives a **** about the solid axle besides drag racers? news flash, drag racers arent the only ones that buy cars! the only thing the GT has going for it is the engine. the car itself is hideous. ill take the 4000lb boat stuffed with an LS3 that has room for potential at a resonable cost rather than the back to the future concept ford is trying to pull with the new GT that has an already taxed out motor. (if not, an arm and a leg project to get half the power you can with an LS3 for half the cost.)
the SS is only about 300 lbs heavier but still has the ***** to make it as fast as the GT. so obviously the SS is more powerful.
who gives a **** about the solid axle besides drag racers? news flash, drag racers arent the only ones that buy cars! the only thing the GT has going for it is the engine. the car itself is hideous. ill take the 4000lb boat stuffed with an LS3 that has room for potential at a resonable cost rather than the back to the future concept ford is trying to pull with the new GT that has an already taxed out motor. (if not, an arm and a leg project to get half the power you can with an LS3 for half the cost.)
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04-07-2010, 06:48 PM
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As for the Mustang vs Camaro in the looks department, it's a rediculous argument. You'll find people who love and hate both cars. It's all personal preference. I've never heard anyone say, "I want that car, it weighs as much as a house."
04-07-2010, 07:08 PM
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You say that like it's no big deal...I'm curious if you do it with a straight face (hard to tell through the computer). The GTO's came out weighing 3725 and everyone flipped out saying they were fat pigs. Then the GT500's came out in the 3900 lbs range and they caught nothing but **** from the GM guys. Now that the Camaro weighs that much it's suddenly ok, though...
They are the only ones that matter
They are the only ones that matter
your so concerned about the weight of the new Camaro, consider the bulk of everything this car is made of. ditch the rear seats, there is your 300 lbs.
even the new 2010 GT500 only runs a 12.4 in the 1/4 with its supposedly revamped 5.4
you put the 2011 GT and the 2010 Camaro in front of me and im going to pick the one that doesnt look like its stuck in the time warp between 2010 and 1970.
ford did great with the 05 mustang with the retro design, but failed miserably in 2010 when they tried putting a modern twist on a retro design. i hope to hell GM doesnt make this same mistake in a few years with the Camaro. if there even is a GM in a few years. with $4.1B losses in the last quarter of 2009....im worried.
04-07-2010, 07:31 PM
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I read on CNN where GM is ready to pay back some of our tax money and there looking at a possible profit this year?
Lets hope so, maybe they will release the Z28 sooner?
A friend of a friend was dead set on buying a GT500.
He goes down to Daytona Beach and drives back a new camaro SS 6spd!
He said he drove and compared both and said he made the right choice.
Lets hope so, maybe they will release the Z28 sooner?
A friend of a friend was dead set on buying a GT500.
He goes down to Daytona Beach and drives back a new camaro SS 6spd!
He said he drove and compared both and said he made the right choice.