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Old 11-09-2011, 08:29 PM
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390 CID, big azz turbo, TH400, stall, Ford 9 inch, ET streets. Not exactly an efficient driveline lol. Had some fuel system issues, and couldn't go any further. This was on 18 lbs., with very conservative timing. It's got a good bit more in it, even at this boost level.

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A little lazy on the spool, but paid off nicely on the big end. Typical of a big *** turbo I'm sure. Impressive power for a conservative tune. Well done Ed.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
A little lazy on the spool, but paid off nicely on the big end. Typical of a big *** turbo I'm sure. Impressive power for a conservative tune. Well done Ed.
Thanks Pat.

It looks lazier than it is. I'll try to get the graph with time as the X axis. I think the converter made it look like that. It flashed pretty quick and then pulled hard.

Guess it's just a run of the mill 900 rwhp turbo car. Woulda thunk it would get more replies than just one LOL
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Got a man here local that has a similar set-up on E-85 and he says the 2-step takes care of the lag that the dyno highlights. Can't argue with the power and the times it runs. Also, making around 800 whp on E85 and stock LQ4 bottom end.

It amazes me what these motors will handle with the right conditions.
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Very impressive Ed. So what constitutes 'conservative' timing? 13 degrees, 14 degrees? I've recently dabbled into the forced induction realm and would like the shortblock to survive for a little while so I've set my afr at 10.8:1 and timing at 13-14 degrees and am quite happy with the power and have zero knock. I still need to work a little on my ve table because it is going way rich when I first get into boost, but I'd rather that than the opposite.
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Looks good, what type of fuel?
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Very cool, have any pictures of the car?
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Originally Posted by hellbents10
Looks good, what type of fuel?
A 50/50 mix of pump and C16. Probably could do it on pump no problem.

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Very cool, have any pictures of the car?
No pics, but I'm waiting on a couple vids. When I get them I will post them up.

On the timing. It's about 9.4:1 compression (so I'm told) and the timing is at 16 degrees on the 18 psi setting. No signs of detonation on the plugs. Could probably bump it a couple degrees on the mix.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Very impressive Ed. So what constitutes 'conservative' timing? 13 degrees, 14 degrees? I've recently dabbled into the forced induction realm and would like the shortblock to survive for a little while so I've set my afr at 10.8:1 and timing at 13-14 degrees and am quite happy with the power and have zero knock. I still need to work a little on my ve table because it is going way rich when I first get into boost, but I'd rather that than the opposite.
I would run it a little leaner. I don't tune any of them in the 10s. Low 11s is about as rich as I want them. Of course, it all depends on boost level and type of piston, rings, top ring gap, etc.
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
I would run it a little leaner. I don't tune any of them in the 10s. Low 11s is about as rich as I want them. Of course, it all depends on boost level and type of piston, rings, top ring gap, etc.
He has the stock bottom end ed with a shallow ring land.
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nice ed... the transmissions in these kind of setups dont do the cars justice as far dyno numbers are concerned, by man do they work at the track... guessing a 3 bar operating system with the old brick map sensor?
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
I would run it a little leaner. I don't tune any of them in the 10s. Low 11s is about as rich as I want them. Of course, it all depends on boost level and type of piston, rings, top ring gap, etc.
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He has the stock bottom end ed with a shallow ring land.
Exactly. I know it's not an ideal situation, but the shortblock fund is slowly growing, so until it's ready to be harvested, I hope to be able to enjoy my current setup.

I'd rather it error on the side of being a little too rich than too lean, I could stand to pull some fuel though because I noticed that upon the bypass valve closing, and the enrichment kicks it, I dip to low 10s fueling, then it returns back up to 10.7-11.0.

Sorry about the thread hijack Ed. Congrats again on the nice setup. I was amazed at how well you were able to help me just over a few emails, I can only imagine the skill and precision of your tuning when you're hands on.
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Looks good. Need the graph in mph to show what it really does.
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
I would run it a little leaner. I don't tune any of them in the 10s. Low 11s is about as rich as I want them. Of course, it all depends on boost level and type of piston, rings, top ring gap, etc.
Yup what he said, The problem with "Stock blocks" is the ring gap, that will kill the motor (Or rings) every time you get aggressive on boost. As you know a motor built for boost has wider ring gaps and on a stock gap the ends of the rings will eventually butt ends destroying the rings and pistons, also running rich can cause problems too, I also run app mid 11's on A/F, as much as 11.8 on mild boost..



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