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Old 10-23-2015, 02:11 PM
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Took the LS swapped Fox body to the dyno recently and came back with some controversial results.

2002 5.3 Block/rotating Assembly
799 Heads (untouched)
LS6 intake w/LS1 TB
LS2 Cam
Hedman Headers
2.5" Exhaust, X pipe, Flowmaster CB
T56 w/4.10 Gears

295 HP/ 294 TQ

I was told these numbers are uncorrected and was done on a Mustang Dyno.

What throws me off a bit is that the car runs 12.8 @112 with a 2.02 60ft. The math doesn't add up to me or the fact that the numbers are uncorrected is the problem.

What do you guys think??

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Originally Posted by Keller428
Took the LS swapped Fox body to the dyno recently and came back with some controversial results.

2002 5.3 Block/rotating Assembly
799 Heads (untouched)
LS6 intake w/LS1 TB
LS2 Cam
Hedman Headers
2.5" Exhaust, X pipe, Flowmaster CB
T56 w/4.10 Gears

295 HP/ 294 TQ

I was told these numbers are uncorrected and was done on a Mustang Dyno.

What throws me off a bit is that the car runs 12.8 @112 with a 2.02 60ft. The math doesn't add up to me or the fact that the numbers are uncorrected is the problem.

What do you guys think??
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If the car is about or under 2900lbs with you in it then that would be close.
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It's a 100% Complete (minus the LS obviously) 89 Fox Body. Without me it weighed in at 3160 on a fairly accurate scale. 3400 with my fat *** in it lol
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I'm surprised it made that much with the ls2 cam.
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Is this a factory 5.3 HO motor that came with the 799 heads or does this have dished pistons? If dished, and you added the 799 heads, you lost compression, and lost hp by adding the better flowing heads because of the loss in compression. Couple that with that garbage cam, and that is what you have.

IF, this has the flat top pistons, you tune is off, or something is wrong. I would swap that cam out, no question. Even if you bang in a LQ9 cam. My 5.3 puts down ~330 and it has stock heads, and is a low compression motor. It is a cam/LS6 intake and shorty headers.

As far as the #'s go, I don't see them being that far off, depending on where you are and the da?
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I don't understand where your coming from on this. Your telling me the the LQ9 cam is better than the ls2 cam? And I lost that much compression the motor took a dive in power?
Is your 330 to the wheels SAE corrected? Your also running it through an auto as I am through a t56 where drive train loss is less. Just a little confused is all.
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For comparison for you my 01 SS 5.3 706 head ls6 intake 01 ls6 cam which is similar to the ls2 cam made 320 whp and w/ 223/235 made 333whp but with 8* less timing
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So it's basically a near stock 5.3 with unknown compression and headers going through some steep gears.

Doesn't sound that far off in terms of numbers, what were you expecting from a very mild setup?

An LS2 is very similar to that setup (except for the displacement and headers) and that puts down 335-340rwhp. So you with less compression and displacement putting around 300 is not out of the norm even with headers and especially seeing as how the 4.10s will take away some numbers.
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Originally Posted by Husker98
For comparison for you my 01 SS 5.3 706 head ls6 intake 01 ls6 cam which is similar to the ls2 cam made 320 whp and w/ 223/235 made 333whp but with 8* less timing
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Those were closer to the numbers I was looking for. Unless the calculators are waaay off, it takes a bit more than 295HP to get a 3400lb car up to 112 mph in the quarter.
From what I remember we figured the compression to be in the low 9s
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My stock LS1 in my 99 Z28 made 297...sounds like a healthy 5.3 to me.

Its been said over and over, but if AFR is good, no knock, and it seems to take an acceptable amount of timing, and it runs right down the track, the numbers don't matter!
Be happy it goes 112, and if you need a better number, find a different dyno, as thats all it is, a different number
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Originally Posted by Keller428
Those were closer to the numbers I was looking for. Unless the calculators are waaay off, it takes a bit more than 295HP to get a 3400lb car up to 112 mph in the quarter.
From what I remember we figured the compression to be in the low 9s
Don't go by those online calculators, the only lead to big time disappointment. lol Those calculators assume perfect conditions based on limited values so they are hardly ever accurate. Sometimes you can get them to match up but usually another number will still be wrong. I suspect your numbers are probably a little higher then what the dyno is showing, but that cam and probably your compression is killing you.
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Thanks everyone for the input. It is what it is I guess. Not like the car is a slouch at all. Was just disapointed not seeing that flashy number. Hopefully none of this will matter much after this winter. The plan is to rebuild the lq4 block I have with lq9 pistols and a Texas Speed cam. That should liven things up a bit (crossing fingers)
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I have to agree with the above posters. I see nothing wrong with those numbers. One it is a Mustang dyno and they tend to read lower than the average Dyno Jet. Remember you are running 323 cubic inches. When you go to the 6.0L you will be at 366 cubic inches.



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