g5x4 cam only dyno
Originally Posted by 97bowtie
I figured engine swaps would be excluded from the very well understood phrase, "cam only".
See my post below.
See my post below.
i knew the mod list looked familiar, but saw z06 in SSonyoursix's sig. the results are impressive none the less but it should of been noted the ls6 heads and .5 increase in compression.
Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
I also noticed you have a pretty decent size cam in your car... where did you dyno at? those numbers seem kind of low.
Last edited by 97bowtie; Feb 15, 2005 at 08:14 PM.
Originally Posted by 97bowtie
I never said YOU said it was cam only. The thread was misleading. Try to pay attention.
Originally Posted by 97bowtie
Maybe these clowns should mention the LS6 heads. Posting numbers claiming it's a cam only car, even though it has LS6 heads...real reputable.
Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
Alright kettle
Originally Posted by 97bowtie
You were one of the first people to respond to the post. You didn't SAY (read Einstein) it was cam only, but you were condoning the notion that the car was cam only by not sharing that little tid bit of overly pertinent information.
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Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
Honestly I didnt read the post, McDuffys asked me to post the dyno, and since it was done on my dyno I said no problem... I just happened to read through some statements like yours, and while that may apply to a stock LS1 somewhere in the world, Stock LS6 engines are different. Your reasoning would not work on a stock z06, or in this case a SS with a LS6 in it... And in addition I was also stating that timing doesnt make all the power, and our lack of power in AZ isnt just from inability to crank timing.
Originally Posted by 97bowtie
Of course it won't apply to an LS6, never said it would. It does, however, apply to LS1s (yes even in THIS STATE) which is what I (and everyone else who came into the thread, until it was pointed out otherwise) was led to believe we were talking about. Is this so difficult to understand?
Originally Posted by SSOnYourSix
alright, youre right, im wrong... Any LS1 in AZ can and has to run 28 degrees to make power... For F Sake man you win... Jesus I love internet forums
Originally Posted by 97bowtie
The thread starter listed all the mods, down to the strut tower brace....yet, forgot to mention the fact that it's an LS6 long block. Riiight. The thread is misleading which is the reason this argument started. I'll just chalk it up to misunderstanding...
The thread wasnt started by myself and i never said cam only either.
Originally Posted by Mcduffys
The thread wasnt started by myself and i never said cam only either.
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Well for what its worth here in OZ we get many hot days over summer. I run a stock LS1 +bolt-ons and with 12.1AFR can only manage 21-22* timing at max. compression. Car feels great and runs consistent 13.1@107 with the odd 13.0 which I think is good for a stock stall A4.
Proof that timing isnt everything. Personally I believe volumetric efficiency and cylinder compression are more important than timing. Bad timing can stuff all that up. IMO timing is a byproduct of maintaining optimum balance between these 2.
That and good fuel.
Proof that timing isnt everything. Personally I believe volumetric efficiency and cylinder compression are more important than timing. Bad timing can stuff all that up. IMO timing is a byproduct of maintaining optimum balance between these 2.
That and good fuel.
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Stop the ******* pissing match! This is rediculous....what is this, 7th grade? The car has an LS6 crate engine so its stock heads are 243's. Therefor this IS a cam only car....the only thing that oil touches that has been replaced is the cam. I'd bet that if you dyno'd the car in a better part of the country where the air and gas are favorable to high horsepower the car would easily put out over 440 hp. Who cares if the car has a conservative tune on it (22-23* timing)? It is making great power for the conservative tune. Let's get this one back on topic....
...the dyno looks real nice. However i was under the impression that this cam was designed to generate a little more torque in the low/mid range.....sort of trying to overcome the G5X3's shortcomings. I know it's a big cam so i shouldn't expect great low end numbers, but it really just seems to be lacking in the low end.
...the dyno looks real nice. However i was under the impression that this cam was designed to generate a little more torque in the low/mid range.....sort of trying to overcome the G5X3's shortcomings. I know it's a big cam so i shouldn't expect great low end numbers, but it really just seems to be lacking in the low end.
At least after all that, we know the actual mods the car has. 
Originally Posted by BlueSix
Stop the ******* pissing match! This is rediculous....what is this, 7th grade? The car has an LS6 crate engine so its stock heads are 243's. Therefor this IS a cam only car....the only thing that oil touches that has been replaced is the cam. I'd bet that if you dyno'd the car in a better part of the country where the air and gas are favorable to high horsepower the car would easily put out over 440 hp. Who cares if the car has a conservative tune on it (22-23* timing)? It is making great power for the conservative tune. Let's get this one back on topic....
...the dyno looks real nice. However i was under the impression that this cam was designed to generate a little more torque in the low/mid range.....sort of trying to overcome the G5X3's shortcomings. I know it's a big cam so i shouldn't expect great low end numbers, but it really just seems to be lacking in the low end.
...the dyno looks real nice. However i was under the impression that this cam was designed to generate a little more torque in the low/mid range.....sort of trying to overcome the G5X3's shortcomings. I know it's a big cam so i shouldn't expect great low end numbers, but it really just seems to be lacking in the low end.
Exactly why I posted the way I posted. The heads havent been worked nor have they been milled! Thats like saying a cam only z06 isnt cam only because "it has ls6 heads....." . The reasoning for low torque is because of how rich it is in the low/mid It's more of a conservative tune as I was told. It was also using heavy *** zr-1's with 315's so im sure that doesnt help. Thanks again to mike for posting the graph
Originally Posted by 97bowtie
Extreme. Car just has cam, lid, LTs and a cutout. No tune, no pulley, no ported TB and no LS6 intake. It will be in the ~ 410 rwhp range with these additional mods.
