g5x4 cam only dyno
02-16-2005, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by verbs
If you bought a cam based on only one thread about dyno numbers and were disappointed, then you would have no one to be pissed at but yourself. 
It should take a lot more than one dyno run to be enough to convince someone to buy a cam.
What's important here, is that this cam only car on a very conservative tune, driven for the first time by it's new owner, was 3mph faster than any of the other cam only cars (albeit LS1 headed) at the track last Sunday. That's proof in the pudding for me.
It should take a lot more than one dyno run to be enough to convince someone to buy a cam.
What's important here, is that this cam only car on a very conservative tune, driven for the first time by it's new owner, was 3mph faster than any of the other cam only cars (albeit LS1 headed) at the track last Sunday. That's proof in the pudding for me.
02-16-2005, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by verbs
If you bought a cam based on only one thread about dyno numbers and were disappointed, then you would have no one to be pissed at but yourself.
It should take a lot more than one dyno run to be enough to convince someone to buy a cam.
It should take a lot more than one dyno run to be enough to convince someone to buy a cam.
02-16-2005, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by verbs
If you bought a cam based on only one thread about dyno numbers and were disappointed, then you would have no one to be pissed at but yourself.
It should take a lot more than one dyno run to be enough to convince someone to buy a cam.
What's important here, is that this cam only car on a very conservative tune, driven for the first time by it's new owner, was 3mph faster than any of the other cam only cars (albeit LS1 headed) at the track last Sunday. That's proof in the pudding for me.
It should take a lot more than one dyno run to be enough to convince someone to buy a cam.
What's important here, is that this cam only car on a very conservative tune, driven for the first time by it's new owner, was 3mph faster than any of the other cam only cars (albeit LS1 headed) at the track last Sunday. That's proof in the pudding for me.
If you don't agree it should have been disclosed, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
02-16-2005, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by verbs
oh right, so I can't have the highest dynoing heads/cam stock cubed 4th gen in AZ because I have LS6 heads, or I can't have the fastest stock cubed NA times in AZ either....
Well crap, an LSX intake isn't stock either but does that mean those cars don't qualify for any of your coveted records?
Well crap, an LSX intake isn't stock either but does that mean those cars don't qualify for any of your coveted records?
thanks for playing, next time think before you type
if the car can't compete for the fastest CAM ONLY "title", then it's not cam only is it
02-16-2005, 04:04 PM
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This is about being the fastest cam only car or some record? This thread has been entertaining but tiring. It's my opinion that it should have been disclosed that it has LS6 heads, but I am not on here bitching about it crying foul. Who cares, the guy was happy that his car is making power to what he perceived to be cam only. Are you ladies done fighting now? How about this, my car is the lowest dynoing heads/cam at 390 rwhp in phoenix, smokes like a freight train, and the motor is on it's last leg thanks to the ring issue and overbored cylinders. Now are you happy?
How about this, my car is the lowest dynoing heads/cam at 390 rwhp in phoenix, smokes like a freight train, and the motor is on it's last leg thanks to the ring issue and overbored cylinders. Now are you happy?
02-16-2005, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by madpwr1
yes, of course you can have the highest dynoing HEADS/CAM stock cubed 4th gen in AZ with ls6 heads and even the fastest stock cubed period ... but you can not have the highest dynoing/fastest CAM ONLY stock cubed 4th gen in AZ with ls6 heads ... LSX intake does not touch oil.
thanks for playing, next time think before you type
if the car can't compete for the fastest CAM ONLY "title", then it's not cam only is it
thanks for playing, next time think before you type
if the car can't compete for the fastest CAM ONLY "title", then it's not cam only is it
.I love these "rules" that are setup for your "titles." So you can change anything as long as oil doesn't touch it and still qualify for the "cam only title." But what about all the people that are notching pistons and upgrading rod bolts etc.....are they disqualified too? How about upgrading valvesprings like 01-Z did? Those touch oil as well. Seems like a very grey area where you get to pick and choose what items are and aren't allowed when considering a cam only title.
So LS6 heads are OK for a heads/cam "title" but not for a cam only "title."
IMO, titles are better left to the Supra owners anyway
02-16-2005, 04:30 PM
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"titles" "records" were only brought up to show that the majority would not believe a f-body with ls6 heads is cam only ... piston notchin, rod bolt change, and valvespring upgrade are not hp mods, they are only for safety
regardless, i don't really care ... think whatever you want
if it puts down power and is fast it's good in my book
peace
regardless, i don't really care ... think whatever you want
if it puts down power and is fast it's good in my book
peace
Originally Posted by verbs
On the contrary, my LSX intake does tend to get a little oil on it .
I love these "rules" that are setup for your "titles." So you can change anything as long as oil doesn't touch it and still qualify for the "cam only title." But what about all the people that are notching pistons and upgrading rod bolts etc.....are they disqualified too? How about upgrading valvesprings like 01-Z did? Those touch oil as well. Seems like a very grey area where you get to pick and choose what items are and aren't allowed when considering a cam only title.
So LS6 heads are OK for a heads/cam "title" but not for a cam only "title."
IMO, titles are better left to the Supra owners anyway
.I love these "rules" that are setup for your "titles." So you can change anything as long as oil doesn't touch it and still qualify for the "cam only title." But what about all the people that are notching pistons and upgrading rod bolts etc.....are they disqualified too? How about upgrading valvesprings like 01-Z did? Those touch oil as well. Seems like a very grey area where you get to pick and choose what items are and aren't allowed when considering a cam only title.
So LS6 heads are OK for a heads/cam "title" but not for a cam only "title."
IMO, titles are better left to the Supra owners anyway
02-16-2005, 08:44 PM
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Everyone crying a foul, go look on the fastest cam only list and people are using stock ls6 heads. Now, again everyone crying, sounds like you're either very jealous or are just another ricer that loves to fight over stupid ****. Take ur *** over to ls1.com if u wanna cry over stupid **** 
02-16-2005, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
Everyone crying a foul, go look on the fastest cam only list and people are using stock ls6 heads. Now, again everyone crying, sounds like you're either very jealous or are just another ricer that loves to fight over stupid ****. Take ur *** over to ls1.com if u wanna cry over stupid ****
02-16-2005, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
Everyone crying a foul, go look on the fastest cam only list and people are using stock ls6 heads. Now, again everyone crying, sounds like you're either very jealous or are just another ricer that loves to fight over stupid ****. Take ur *** over to ls1.com if u wanna cry over stupid ****
none of the cam only cars on that list have LS6 heads.
02-16-2005, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSix
none of the cam only cars on that list have LS6 heads.i see everyones argument but this thread is just nuts.
i also misunderstood the mods based on the title of the thread and the car it was in. yes, its a cam only ls6 motor, no it would never be a cam only fbody. that would have to be a original type engine. you could qualify for the vette list tho.
i guess i could get me some stock afr225's
j/k fellas
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02-16-2005, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by verbs
What's important here, is that this cam only car on a very conservative tune, driven for the first time by it's new owner, was 3mph faster than any of the other cam only cars (albeit LS1 headed) at the track last Sunday.
02-16-2005, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SMOKIN01TA
verbs, what did it mph, i didnt see any times 
Raceweight is probably around 3600-3700lbs on that thing and it trapped 118.x mph. DA was around 2000 at the time I believe....
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02-16-2005, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by verbs
not 130mph that's for sure
Raceweight is probably around 3600-3700lbs on that thing and it trapped 118.x mph. DA was around 2000 at the time I believe....
Raceweight is probably around 3600-3700lbs on that thing and it trapped 118.x mph. DA was around 2000 at the time I believe....
Im going to end this phuqing bitching contest right now. First of all I didnt start this thread and was unaware of its existent until almost a week afterwards. 2nd of all I was ignorant to the fact that LS6 heads werent considered to be stock. So if you look in my sig now its clear as day UNTOUCHED LS6 HEADS! Hope this makes all party’s happy. We are hear to learn about these cars and offer what we learn ourselves not bitch at complain to each other based on various opinions.
As far as how it ran it trapped 118mph on a very weak 2.1 sixty foot. This was my first time driving it at the track. I only launched it at 2500ish and it bogged down. Obviously with a harder launch and a sixty foot somewhere in the 1.7-1.9 range the car will see high 11's at 120mph or better.
Now that we have covered everything and everything is out on the table, lets put a end to this bitch contest. Because opinions in cam only and not will always be different and will always be skewed in one way or another.
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
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02-16-2005, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mcduffys
So if you look in my sig now its clear as day UNTOUCHED LS6 HEADS!
02-16-2005, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by verbs
Actually, would you mind bolding that phrase with some flashing neon background just in case?
Originally Posted by Mcduffys
Im going to end this phuqing bitching contest right now. First of all I didnt start this thread and was unaware of its existent until almost a week afterwards. 2nd of all I was ignorant to the fact that LS6 heads werent considered to be stock. So if you look in my sig now its clear as day UNTOUCHED LS6 HEADS! Hope this makes all party’s happy. We are hear to learn about these cars and offer what we learn ourselves not bitch at complain to each other based on various opinions.
As far as how it ran it trapped 118mph on a very weak 2.1 sixty foot. This was my first time driving it at the track. I only launched it at 2500ish and it bogged down. Obviously with a harder launch and a sixty foot somewhere in the 1.7-1.9 range the car will see high 11's at 120mph or better.
Now that we have covered everything and everything is out on the table, lets put a end to this bitch contest. Because opinions in cam only and not will always be different and will always be skewed in one way or another.
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
As far as how it ran it trapped 118mph on a very weak 2.1 sixty foot. This was my first time driving it at the track. I only launched it at 2500ish and it bogged down. Obviously with a harder launch and a sixty foot somewhere in the 1.7-1.9 range the car will see high 11's at 120mph or better.
Now that we have covered everything and everything is out on the table, lets put a end to this bitch contest. Because opinions in cam only and not will always be different and will always be skewed in one way or another.
CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
What do you think about those apples Verbs? Just for you! Not to mention the other 10,000 people on this forum.
02-17-2005, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001CamaroGuy
WTF? 
you better be joking
you better be joking Do you really think that the oxygen density is the same here as it is back east or anywhere else with tons of plants and trees? Vapor pressure, air pressure, and ambient temperature are the inputs to the SAE equation. I am talking about the oxygen density of the air, not barometric pressure or DA.
02-17-2005, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by verbs
405 dammit, don't shaft me 
soon to be 420+ with my new 90/90LSX manifold, better headers, and EWP going on
soon to be 420+ with my new 90/90LSX manifold, better headers, and EWP going on
