Evaluate my setup please. What do you think i should be making on the dyno?
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Evaluate my setup please. What do you think i should be making on the dyno?
Here's what i have:
1999 pontiac trans am LS1 Auto trans bone stock it ran 13.6@106 consistently on the 1/4 mile with street tires. I mention this because i do not have before numbers but the track time should show that the engine was a solid runner to start with.
46,000 miles on stock motor.
These are the mods i had ordered and installed by a professional shop that deals mostly with these engines.
Patriot LS6/LQ4 stage 2 heads, chrome moly pushrods Felpro head gaskets/bolts and GM crank seal and bolt. 224/228 -581/581 114LSA cam.
NGK copper plugs -1 cold
TNT -4 Pro Purge kit
LS1 75-150HP kit w/10lb bottle, bottle heater, Inline fuel pump, window switch, WOT switch.
Super street fighter Torque converter, 3200 stall
Trans go shift kit, B&M 24000 GVW trans cooler
Hooker LS1 Y pipe (Cat delete)
Hooker long tubes coated
Quicktime electric cutout
K&N filtercharger
EGR block off
Moser 12 bolt rear end with 3.73 gears and eatin posi (stock gears were 3.23) trans am girdle option and 33 spline.
Dyno tune.
OK, looking at this setup what do you think my all motor and 100 shot numbers should be at the rear wheels? i've had both mustang and dynojet passes and dyno tunes done and will post the actual numbers later in this thread. i don't want to give them now and stray anyones thoughts.
RWHP i have numbers with full slicks and without on the dyno.
I don't street race so don't be looking for an edge
1999 pontiac trans am LS1 Auto trans bone stock it ran 13.6@106 consistently on the 1/4 mile with street tires. I mention this because i do not have before numbers but the track time should show that the engine was a solid runner to start with.
46,000 miles on stock motor.
These are the mods i had ordered and installed by a professional shop that deals mostly with these engines.
Patriot LS6/LQ4 stage 2 heads, chrome moly pushrods Felpro head gaskets/bolts and GM crank seal and bolt. 224/228 -581/581 114LSA cam.
NGK copper plugs -1 cold
TNT -4 Pro Purge kit
LS1 75-150HP kit w/10lb bottle, bottle heater, Inline fuel pump, window switch, WOT switch.
Super street fighter Torque converter, 3200 stall
Trans go shift kit, B&M 24000 GVW trans cooler
Hooker LS1 Y pipe (Cat delete)
Hooker long tubes coated
Quicktime electric cutout
K&N filtercharger
EGR block off
Moser 12 bolt rear end with 3.73 gears and eatin posi (stock gears were 3.23) trans am girdle option and 33 spline.
Dyno tune.
OK, looking at this setup what do you think my all motor and 100 shot numbers should be at the rear wheels? i've had both mustang and dynojet passes and dyno tunes done and will post the actual numbers later in this thread. i don't want to give them now and stray anyones thoughts.
RWHP i have numbers with full slicks and without on the dyno.
I don't street race so don't be looking for an edge
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Dynojet through an unlocked converter. With the cutouts open you might see 390. If you had an LS6 intake and an undrive pulley, you might see 400rwhp unlocked. Put a FAST LSX90 and well you might be at 410-415 NA.
Also, your NA tune isn't going to be the best for power, since you are probably running less timing for the nitrous. So, maybe 550rwhp unlocked on the gas with a 150 shot. You have a 99 also, which for whatever reason, dyno lower than any other year.
Also, your NA tune isn't going to be the best for power, since you are probably running less timing for the nitrous. So, maybe 550rwhp unlocked on the gas with a 150 shot. You have a 99 also, which for whatever reason, dyno lower than any other year.
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I haven't forgoten about my thread. actually quite the oppisite, i'm anxious for replies right now. as soon as i get around 4-5 more evaluations i'll post my numbers and tell you who made my numbers happen for me...
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OK here they are then, MAX numbers on a mustang dyno after 3 dyno tunes these are the best numbers i've seen:
NA HP/324 @ 6395 A/F 12.4 Torque 305.
100wet shot HP/380 @ 6189 A/F 11.7 Torque 390
both numbers are with a 4 degree retard only...
.581-.581 224/228 114lsa supposed to mean nitrous cam right? so i expected low numbers on all motor and expected also for the nitrous to wake the lil bitch up...lil over 50hp gain from a 100 shot...
The factory ratings for this car are around 320HP at the lowest i've seen this would meen that all these mods got me 4HP NA and 56HP spraying 100. good combo? lol
what's wrong with this picture?
NA HP/324 @ 6395 A/F 12.4 Torque 305.
100wet shot HP/380 @ 6189 A/F 11.7 Torque 390
both numbers are with a 4 degree retard only...
.581-.581 224/228 114lsa supposed to mean nitrous cam right? so i expected low numbers on all motor and expected also for the nitrous to wake the lil bitch up...lil over 50hp gain from a 100 shot...
The factory ratings for this car are around 320HP at the lowest i've seen this would meen that all these mods got me 4HP NA and 56HP spraying 100. good combo? lol
what's wrong with this picture?
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your numbers are low, but arent that bad. its a mustang dyno, which is lower then a dynojet. on a dynojet i have 375/370 with mods in sig. and i wouldnt exactly call that a nitrous cam either...
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How much does your car weigh? Factor in the weight in this equation.
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/dyno.htm
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/dyno.htm
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that calculation is off.... i know my weight, and i know my trap speed, and i know my rwhp...and its final calc is 25hp higher....
and, ive been talking to this guy in pm's and something is definately not right at all...
and, ive been talking to this guy in pm's and something is definately not right at all...
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Car just went back into the original shop to get looked over for the last time. i had a cylinder firing cold so maybe this is the source of my problem...i'll keep ya'll posted...
thanks
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Back from the shop
they got me on a dynojet 391hp and 378Torque all motor. and about 80 more HP & 105more Torque lb's on a 100 shot. going through a 3200 convertor unlocked, a 12 bolt with 3.73's and 18" wheels i guess this is decent.
now i need to get out to the track throw the hoosier slicks on and take a few passes...i'm hoping for high to mid tens on a 150 shot but will settle for 10 anything and be happy to say i'm a ten second car...which is all i really wanted in the first place.
You think i'll make these times with what i got? the stereo system weighs around an extra 100 LB's give or take a little...i'm gonna try to go to a weigh station and get my car weighed if i can get away with that today sometime...
Jon
now i need to get out to the track throw the hoosier slicks on and take a few passes...i'm hoping for high to mid tens on a 150 shot but will settle for 10 anything and be happy to say i'm a ten second car...which is all i really wanted in the first place.
You think i'll make these times with what i got? the stereo system weighs around an extra 100 LB's give or take a little...i'm gonna try to go to a weigh station and get my car weighed if i can get away with that today sometime...
Jon
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Dam bro say what yu wanted to post in the first place:
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your cam isnt considered a nitrous cam. a cam such as a 236/242 with 6 degress of split would be considered a nitrous cam. Your cam is a traditional split. You're also using a 12 bolt w/373's and using heads that are "considered" the worst as far as quality/performance goes. + all of this going through the unlocked verter, your numbers are decent, not great... but decent man. Go bust your low 11/high 10 and be happy.
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I respect that more...lol
Didn't know i had a bad setup...untill now?
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your cam isnt considered a nitrous cam. a cam such as a 236/242 with 6 degress of split would be considered a nitrous cam. Your cam is a traditional split. You're also using a 12 bolt w/373's and using heads that are "considered" the worst as far as quality/performance goes. + all of this going through the unlocked verter, your numbers are decent, not great... but decent man. Go bust your low 11/high 10 and be happy.
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I respect that more...lol
Didn't know i had a bad setup...untill now?
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actually those numbers are pretty good. Better than I would have expected. Those heads arent really that good and you are going through unlocked converter and a 12 bolt. You would have aorund 410rwhp thru a locked converter and thats a very respectable setup.
Congrats on the numbers and have fun at the track.
Congrats on the numbers and have fun at the track.
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Originally Posted by ILuvMyTransam
the stereo system weighs around an extra 100 LB's give or take a little...i'm gonna try to go to a weigh station and get my car weighed if i can get away with that today sometime...
Jon
Jon