Gained additional power and torque to my setup!
07-16-2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Number are through an open cutout and I've always run an UD pulley. Interestingly, my numbers only dropped to 467/422 with the exhaust closed. I guess that means my setup is pretty lethal in every day street driving. You can check out all the details of my mods by clicking my signature.
Those are coming very soon. With this dual disc clutch, my stock 10 bolt may not survive too many hard launches, so I will have to look more at trap speeds than ET to see the power gains.
Those are coming very soon. With this dual disc clutch, my stock 10 bolt may not survive too many hard launches, so I will have to look more at trap speeds than ET to see the power gains.
07-16-2006, 04:39 PM
#43
Originally Posted by Patrick G
Yes, you definitely have me on the torque side. You Vette guys running LG long tube headers have a definite advantage in the exhaust department. When LG begins to offer their long tube headers for the F-bodies, we should see our torque numbers come up even more. Good stuff!
When are they supposed to come out??? How much do you think they are worh over QTP HVMC headers?
07-16-2006, 04:56 PM
#44
Originally Posted by 52172
When are they supposed to come out??? How much do you think they are worh over QTP HVMC headers?
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
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07-17-2006, 04:34 PM
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Patrick, What do you think about the new Edelbrock headers. Wouldn't they make more torgue? Although not stainless, the quality of these headers is verygood.
Picture:http://gmhightechperformance.com/tec.../photo_27.html
Picture:http://gmhightechperformance.com/tec.../photo_27.html
Last edited by gollum; 07-18-2006 at 06:01 PM.
07-17-2006, 06:17 PM
#46
Originally Posted by gollum
Patrick, What do you think about the new Edelbrock headers. Wouldn't they make more torgue? Although not stainless, the quality of these headers is verygood.
Picture:http://gmhightechperformance.com/tec.../photo_27.html
Picture:http://gmhightechperformance.com/tec.../photo_27.html
I think the "LG style" would still be better on a stock displacement F-Body (if its got the same extra long 1.75" primary pipes and 3" merge collecter as the current C5 design), but that Edelbrock header would crank on a 402 or larger stroker....good TQ and big power running some displacement in front of that design. I wish there was something like that for my C5's future endeavors....I think it would be just what the doctor ordered for my upcoming 415 project. I'm fairly certain my current exhaust system (which may even by choking my current 383 somewhat) will pose a far greater restriction on the larger, higher output 415, especially past 6500 RPM's. It will certainly help make MOUNDS of low and midrange TQ, but fall off quickly past peak HP. Might have to try what I have and go from there...
Thanks for posting the link....wasn't even aware that option existed for the F-Body guys but I wouldn't exactly call it a "bolt in" by any means either....looks like fabricating skills and tools are a must!
Tony M.
Tony
Last edited by Tony Mamo @ AFR; 07-17-2006 at 06:36 PM.
07-17-2006, 06:24 PM
#47
Originally Posted by Tony Mamo @ AFR
NICE header....
I think the LG style would still be better on a stock displacement F-Body (if its got the same extra long 1.75" primary pipe and 3" merge collecter as the current C5 design), but that Edelbrock header would crank on a 402 or larger stroker....good TQ and big power running some displacement in front of that design. I wish there was something like that for my C5's future 415....I think it would be perfect and my current system will start to pose a larger restriction in high RPM and peak #'s).
Thanks for posting the link....wasn't even aware that option existed for the F-Body guys.
Tony
I think the LG style would still be better on a stock displacement F-Body (if its got the same extra long 1.75" primary pipe and 3" merge collecter as the current C5 design), but that Edelbrock header would crank on a 402 or larger stroker....good TQ and big power running some displacement in front of that design. I wish there was something like that for my C5's future 415....I think it would be perfect and my current system will start to pose a larger restriction in high RPM and peak #'s).
Thanks for posting the link....wasn't even aware that option existed for the F-Body guys.
Tony
Those Edelbrock headers are sweet, plus if you buy it without the collector welded on, you can configure it with the collector extension to meet your specific needs. And at the price it goes for, it's a good bargain. The Ti-Tech finish is supposedly pretty good as well.
07-17-2006, 09:14 PM
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LG loooooong tube headers for F-bodies... 
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
07-20-2006, 07:40 PM
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Geez, talk about power under the curve. My goodness Pat, those are some very impressive torque numbers, especially when you consider the displacement your working with. Good thing you live where you do, as I'd never want to pull up next to that thing at a stop light...
RPM RWHP RWTQ
2400 148 324
2600 164 332
2800 182 341
3000 203 355
3200 222 365
3400 243 376
3600 266 388
3800 288 398
4000 306 402
4200 327 409
4400 346 413
4600 371 424
4800 392 429
5000 407 427
5200 420 424
5400 436 424
5600 453 425
5800 464 420
6000 468 410
6200 472 400
6400 475 390
6600 470 374
6800 465 359
7000 458 344
Originally Posted by Patrick G
RPM RWHP RWTQ
2400 148 324
2600 164 332
2800 182 341
3000 203 355
3200 222 365
3400 243 376
3600 266 388
3800 288 398
4000 306 402
4200 327 409
4400 346 413
4600 371 424
4800 392 429
5000 407 427
5200 420 424
5400 436 424
5600 453 425
5800 464 420
6000 468 410
6200 472 400
6400 475 390
6600 470 374
6800 465 359
7000 458 344
07-21-2006, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TroubledWine3
350 lbft. of torque at ~2900rpms is VERY very impressive, especially out of a 346. Awesome job, Pat.
Originally Posted by TroubledWine3
Can't wait to see what's next.
07-21-2006, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
VERY IMPRESSIVE. 
Care to share the full list of mods along with all the "little details"
By following that receipe, stroker combos have more to compete with.
Bill
Care to share the full list of mods along with all the "little details"
By following that receipe, stroker combos have more to compete with.
Bill
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
07-21-2006, 08:55 AM
#56
Originally Posted by Patrick G
I have detailed everything including many pictures, specs and dyno graphs when you click my signature...or to make it easier, click here: http://guerragroup.com/2000TA.htm
Thanks, I guess I should have moved the mouse over your sig...
07-21-2006, 09:25 AM
#58
Originally Posted by Billiumss
What length pushrods are you using? Didn't see that listed...
07-21-2006, 10:15 AM
#60
Originally Posted by Billiumss
Why a smaller base circle? What is it?
Are you using stock 1.7 rockers?
Are you using stock 1.7 rockers?
For instance, the stock base circle is 1.553" (or .7765" radius). The stock lift is around .500".
To run a .650" lift cam, you'll need for the diameter of the backside of the cam to be smaller. This means a smaller base circle. The BS for an LSK lobed cam is 1.395" or .6975" radius. When you have a smaller base circle, typically, you will need longer pushrods to maintain stock lifter plunger depth. But because my heads are milled, I get most of the reduction in base circle back. Therefore, I can run a stock length 7.400" pushrod.
Yes, I'm using bone stock 55k mile rockers and lifters.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.