View Poll Results: You RWTQ
430-434
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44
44.90%
435-439
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8
8.16%
440-444
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9
9.18%
445-449
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6
6.12%
450-454
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8
8.16%
455+
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23
23.47%
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Highest torque from stock 346 (NA) on pump gas?? Post up if you make 430+
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Every shop has nut swingers... Trust me, they arent on the payroll
I couldnt agree more than track tuning is where it counts... We plan to make as many events this year as possible to support our customers at the track... If we had some hardcore drag racers down here in Ga like you GB guys we would have already been there![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
Thanx for the props on the shop. I honestly enjoy seeing cars like OffAxis GTO 1200 miles away making 480s missing quite a few bolt ons more so than the ones we are building here.
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I couldnt agree more than track tuning is where it counts... We plan to make as many events this year as possible to support our customers at the track... If we had some hardcore drag racers down here in Ga like you GB guys we would have already been there
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Thanx for the props on the shop. I honestly enjoy seeing cars like OffAxis GTO 1200 miles away making 480s missing quite a few bolt ons more so than the ones we are building here.
Originally Posted by ATVracr
I have to agree with you, Vengence has not done that.... the nutswingers have tho.
We use the dyno to test cams, intakes, heads , blah blah blah. And the Mustang that we use will get us really close to a good tune up for the track.
My guess is there is a little left on the table from a Dynojet only tune. Tuning at the track will get you to the finish line quickest because it the car will have the TRUE load on it. Not that Vengence doesnt know that but I bet there are alot of people on here that dont.
Good luck with the shop, you guys seem to be turning out some nice cars
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We use the dyno to test cams, intakes, heads , blah blah blah. And the Mustang that we use will get us really close to a good tune up for the track.
My guess is there is a little left on the table from a Dynojet only tune. Tuning at the track will get you to the finish line quickest because it the car will have the TRUE load on it. Not that Vengence doesnt know that but I bet there are alot of people on here that dont.
Good luck with the shop, you guys seem to be turning out some nice cars
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
I have to agree with you, Vengence has not done that.... the nutswingers have tho. ![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Had to repost, currently making 455.8 rwtq in my lil ole 346
Congrat on your new numbers.
Post a graph when you have a chance, I would like to see if your engine can beat those 390 ft-lbs of RWTQ @ 3200 rpm from Vengeance.
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
Hi allngn_c5,
Congrat on your new numbers.
Post a graph when you have a chance, I would like to see if your engine can beat those 390 ft-lbs of RWTQ @ 3200 rpm from Vengeance.
Christian
Congrat on your new numbers.
Post a graph when you have a chance, I would like to see if your engine can beat those 390 ft-lbs of RWTQ @ 3200 rpm from Vengeance.
Christian
I am going to go look. I think I am very close.
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
Hi allngn_c5,
Congrat on your new numbers.
Post a graph when you have a chance, I would like to see if your engine can beat those 390 ft-lbs of RWTQ @ 3200 rpm from Vengeance.
Christian
Congrat on your new numbers.
Post a graph when you have a chance, I would like to see if your engine can beat those 390 ft-lbs of RWTQ @ 3200 rpm from Vengeance.
Christian
Nope.....
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
eh, mine is close. 375 rwtq @ 3200 rpm. Although, that is through a 9" and 4.30's which lost 19 ftlbs @ 3200. Doesnt help dynoing on a low dyno either ![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
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You'r closing the gap in low range with a very nice combination certainly very drivable....but no one seems to reproduce the low torque of the "Vengeance package" PLUS the max power on the top!!!with a 346ci...
Have fun
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I may be wrong, but the cars I have seen have mostly been on stock gearing. That would put me at 395 ft lbs @ 3200 rpm and 495 rwhp. Put this on a dyno that reads more with the average results on here and that is another pickup across the board that would put me near 510 rwhp and 465 ft lbs (I know these losses because I did back to back testing).
Not to mention I am doing this with a 230/232 cam![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
In the end, there is a lot that can play a factor, and the rear and dyno play the biggest role. You cant really compare numbers without having a reference (which is why I base lined on the other dyno) I went 473/441 to 456/426 just changing dynos, then 449/414 after rear end and EWP. Either way, they have a nice package and without a doubt are paying attention to these small details to pull every pony across the board
Not to mention I am doing this with a 230/232 cam
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In the end, there is a lot that can play a factor, and the rear and dyno play the biggest role. You cant really compare numbers without having a reference (which is why I base lined on the other dyno) I went 473/441 to 456/426 just changing dynos, then 449/414 after rear end and EWP. Either way, they have a nice package and without a doubt are paying attention to these small details to pull every pony across the board
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Originally Posted by Frost
>700 ftlbs rwtq, stock inch ls1
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In the tittle of this thread:
from stock 346 (NA) on pump gas?? Post up if you make 430+
Are you still in?
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Had a car we did about two years ago that made 430rwhp and 425rwtq with FAST 90/90, F13, and a Stage II 241 casting ported heads on a Mustang Dyno. Yank 4000rpm, 3.73:1 gear. At 3500rpm had 380rwtq.
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Originally Posted by hunterdawgs
Vengeance Racing recently made 521/464 through my 03 ZO6.Here's the link.https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/661579-trickflow-vengeance-racing-521-464-dyno-graph-inside.html
The ex owner just sold her for really cheap (as it was advertised...) because he had personnal problems.
The new buyer made an amazing good deal.
The car had for $40,000.00 in modification and he drove her only 2000 miles since the dyno time (according to the owner)
The shame is that he never got the opportunity to bring those huge numbers to the strip...
RON@VENGEANCE just bought her back and the shop is owning her since few days...
Ron, are we going to have some E.T. from the drag strip soon on this car, do you plan to race her?
Christian
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Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance
TrickFlow Cylinder heads with a 13.5* Valve angle with better MID LIFT flow #s than other heads out there thus producing more power UNDER THE CURVE than your typical combination.
ENCORE ENCORE
Tread title should have been:
"Highest torque @3000 rpm" from stock 346 (NA) on pump gas?? Post up if you make 430 or higher peak HP.
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