How Much Power with only bolt ons??
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How Much Power with only bolt ons?? I have an LS1 that is a daily driver and I was trying to see how much power i can get out of it without messing with the internals here are my plans
SLP Lid
Smooth bellows
ported or aftermarket TB
LS6 Intake
Longtube headers ORY
Cutout
Underdrive Pulley
Electric water pump
1.8 roller rocker kit
3800 stall TC
3.73 gears
Dyno Tune
my question is what would my HP and TQ numbers look like and also what kind of 1/4 or 1/8 mile times are some of you guys running with similar mods?
thanks
SLP Lid
Smooth bellows
ported or aftermarket TB
LS6 Intake
Longtube headers ORY
Cutout
Underdrive Pulley
Electric water pump
1.8 roller rocker kit
3800 stall TC
3.73 gears
Dyno Tune
my question is what would my HP and TQ numbers look like and also what kind of 1/4 or 1/8 mile times are some of you guys running with similar mods?
thanks
Originally Posted by SS4Luck
ill throw in my .02 and say an the general opinion of electric water pumps are they are a no go for a DD... life expectancy is too short
Originally Posted by SS4Luck
ill throw in my .02 and say an the general opinion of electric water pumps are they are a no go for a DD... life expectancy is too short
Originally Posted by staringback05
you had a dyno tune and didnt find out what the numbers where ? 
Hope that gives u an idea
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Originally Posted by BirdmanLS1
I think if i get tru duals, fast 90/90, EWP, and a tune, etc, i should have 380 or more.
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Verdad Gallardo ya... that would be awesome, the thing is, i plan to go F.I. later on. 88mm turbo so im gonna get a custom cam then. For now im gonna get AFR Heads, forged internals, fuel system, rear end, tranny, etc.
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Ls1 will see a genuine 400bhp SAE Net comparable maybe a tad more. That equaltes to ~360rwhp on a Dynojet and ~340rwhp on a Mustang Dyno, as a FULL bolt on setup.
However you'll see better gains for less money going for some bolt on's and a cam.
Yep good mod.
Waste of money and no gain.
All good.
If you have a good flowing catback you'll see no HP, it will then only be a volume control. But generally the free flowing exhausts are loud, so even being a volume control will be limited.
All good. Although a cam may be a good bet with the pulley.
Isn't this internal?
No HP but def good mod
Will help but isn't needed at this level. Much more appropriate if you do a cam.
However you'll see better gains for less money going for some bolt on's and a cam.
Originally Posted by Formula_Power
I have an LS1 that is a daily driver and I was trying to see how much power i can get out of it without messing with the internals here are my plans
Originally Posted by Formula_Power
SLP Lid
Originally Posted by Formula_Power
Smooth bellows
Originally Posted by Formula_Power
ported or aftermarket TB
LS6 Intake
Longtube headers ORY
LS6 Intake
Longtube headers ORY
Originally Posted by Formula_Power
Cutout
Originally Posted by Formula_Power
Underdrive Pulley
Electric water pump
Electric water pump
Originally Posted by Formula_Power
1.8 roller rocker kit
Originally Posted by Formula_Power
3800 stall TC
3.73 gears
3.73 gears
Originally Posted by Formula_Power
Dyno Tune
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yea i guess the rollers are internal....but it's not going to effeft the drivability like a cam. ...i just don;t want to mess with the timing events and really get deep into the motor until something breaks...then i will worry about it. I have another ls1 with a cam to do all the interal stuff with
so do you think with all the mods i could get into the mid 11's? or is that too optimistic for thoes mods?
thanks
Dustin
so do you think with all the mods i could get into the mid 11's? or is that too optimistic for thoes mods?
thanks
Dustin
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Originally Posted by Formula_Power
yea i guess the rollers are internal....but it's not going to effeft the drivability like a cam. ...i just don;t want to mess with the timing events and really get deep into the motor until something breaks...then i will worry about it. I have another ls1 with a cam to do all the interal stuff with
so do you think with all the mods i could get into the mid 11's? or is that too optimistic for thoes mods?
thanks
Dustin
so do you think with all the mods i could get into the mid 11's? or is that too optimistic for thoes mods?
thanks
Dustin
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id say with a lid, tb, intake, headers, exhaust, pulley, stall, gears and a tune you'll see high elevens...
look into gettin an air filter as well and do your 'free mods'. id say with all of the things i listed youll see 355-360hp..
why'd you decide on a 3800 stall? are you leavin some room to play with for when/if you get a cam?
look into gettin an air filter as well and do your 'free mods'. id say with all of the things i listed youll see 355-360hp..
why'd you decide on a 3800 stall? are you leavin some room to play with for when/if you get a cam?
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yea i acually found this thing for 13 bucks that will work for my smooth bellows piece....i decided on a 3800 because i found a good deal on a tci 3800 for 275 shipped
more like 340rwhp-ish.. thats my guess.. I'm only guessing that because i have seen countless Fbody's on my neighbor's dyno (i run it as well) and for those mods.. thats about where you are at.. depending on who does the tune and what they used to tune it, and if they know what they are doing..
for those of you who say "get a filter" or K&N replacement.. save your money.. not worth 45$ for the filter at all...
i did back to back to back testing (yes 3) of a K&N, WIX paper filter, no air filter, using an SLP lid
no air filter gained 2.2rwhp (over using the paper WIX filter)... K&N gained 1.1rwhp over the paper... paper will keep more crap out, its cheaper.. no significant gains at all.
for those of you who say "get a filter" or K&N replacement.. save your money.. not worth 45$ for the filter at all...
i did back to back to back testing (yes 3) of a K&N, WIX paper filter, no air filter, using an SLP lid
no air filter gained 2.2rwhp (over using the paper WIX filter)... K&N gained 1.1rwhp over the paper... paper will keep more crap out, its cheaper.. no significant gains at all.
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Originally Posted by GR33N GoblinM6
for those of you who say "get a filter" or K&N replacement.. save your money.. not worth 45$ for the filter at all...
i did back to back to back testing (yes 3) of a K&N, WIX paper filter, no air filter, using an SLP lid
no air filter gained 2.2rwhp (over using the paper WIX filter)... K&N gained 1.1rwhp over the paper... paper will keep more crap out, its cheaper.. no significant gains at all.
i did back to back to back testing (yes 3) of a K&N, WIX paper filter, no air filter, using an SLP lid
no air filter gained 2.2rwhp (over using the paper WIX filter)... K&N gained 1.1rwhp over the paper... paper will keep more crap out, its cheaper.. no significant gains at all.
If you like the idea of a reusable filter, get an Amsoil EaA83. At least as good flow as the best paper (probably not much less than the best oiled/cotton guaze), better Donaldson technology filtration, NO oils to f up the MAF/intake, and you clean it with a vacum or low pressure compressed air.
