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372 preliminary results--724hp and climbing!!!!!
Dart headed 225 cc heads, 12.8:1 nitrous setup, JE pistons, coated skirts, coated tops, eagle rods and crank, solid roller cam, Carb intake, MSD 6010 box, fogger on top. etc... etc.
**Edit**25x/25x .730 lift 108lsa custom nitrous grind camshaft. GMPP intake pics will be up shortly of the work they've done to it. Heads flow 350cfm @ .730 intake. 55cc chamber! They flow 257cfm on the exhaust at .730 with no pipe. Adding a pipe usually nets you 15-20cfm. 3.910 bore/3.875 stroke with a 6.125 rod.
First of, we've had some issues with the 6010 box MSD sells. We are tuning this motor in on the engine dyno. So we have no alternator setup at this time. With the MSD coils on it, it wont pull beyond 3000RPMS because even with 2 12 volt batteries and a charger on them it wont show much voltage over 10.8. So we swapped to the stock coils to see if it was a voltage problem and we could go to 7000 now but thats the limit without a charging system ran by the motor. Working on getting an alternator on this motor today and put the MSD coils back on it.
Edit** got the box wired directly to the battery, exactly the way MSD said it would NOT run like. WE spoke with the engineers and they said they never tested the box with their coils. Yay. So we can get the motor to turn 8500. On the nitrous it just wont do it. Looking at a 16 volt setup to power the coils only and run the rest of the setup on 12 volts. Brake fuel consumption was as low as .38 which is superb.
*** New Numbers***
724hp @ 7600 with 34 degrees of timing. With some more tuning it made more power but im not allowed to disclose anymore then this. as the owner doesnt want it disclosed. Ive got this dyno sheet to post when I get it scanned. The ignition setup still has problems. So no nitrous numbers. As of today, MSD knows of this and no one has taken this box that high of RPMs. They refunded us the money and now it will have a front mount GM distributer setup.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../HPIM0646a.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0648.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0649.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0650.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0652.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0653.jpg
More pics here.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0655.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0656.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0657.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0687.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0688.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0689.jpg
Few video clips here.
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t=HPIM0690.flv
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t=HPIM0704.flv
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t=HPIM0705.flv
Heads in progress
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090026.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090027.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1110030.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1110031.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1110032.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220009.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220010.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220011.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220012.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220015.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220016.jpg
GMPP Intake porting and fogger plumbing. Work in progress pics.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040001.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040002.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040003.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040004.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040006.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040007.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040009.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050010.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050011.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050012.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050013.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050014.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050015.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050016.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050017.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050018.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050019.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050020.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050021.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090022.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090023.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090024.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090025.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090028.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090029.jpg
Enjoy folks. This is no cut-rate shop. So this is not a normal build that a sponsor would sell. This is well thought out parts and combination put to work with some R&D to make the power it does. Theres nothing off the shelf about it except the fogger, the intake before work, and the Dart cylinder heads before porting. We arent trying to say this is the baddest LS1 ever but what we are saying is that it makes MEAN power for small bore applications for a cam thats not even 260 degrees of duration with small heads! Everyone claims small CI dont make power, Dart heads dont make power, and the GMPP dont run well in high RPMs. Everything is been proven wrong here. This thing makes as much power as 420+ ci motors. Compare this to others around and you'll see that even this nitrous motor will compete with others NA setups. Thats something to speak about.
**Edit**25x/25x .730 lift 108lsa custom nitrous grind camshaft. GMPP intake pics will be up shortly of the work they've done to it. Heads flow 350cfm @ .730 intake. 55cc chamber! They flow 257cfm on the exhaust at .730 with no pipe. Adding a pipe usually nets you 15-20cfm. 3.910 bore/3.875 stroke with a 6.125 rod.
First of, we've had some issues with the 6010 box MSD sells. We are tuning this motor in on the engine dyno. So we have no alternator setup at this time. With the MSD coils on it, it wont pull beyond 3000RPMS because even with 2 12 volt batteries and a charger on them it wont show much voltage over 10.8. So we swapped to the stock coils to see if it was a voltage problem and we could go to 7000 now but thats the limit without a charging system ran by the motor. Working on getting an alternator on this motor today and put the MSD coils back on it.
Edit** got the box wired directly to the battery, exactly the way MSD said it would NOT run like. WE spoke with the engineers and they said they never tested the box with their coils. Yay. So we can get the motor to turn 8500. On the nitrous it just wont do it. Looking at a 16 volt setup to power the coils only and run the rest of the setup on 12 volts. Brake fuel consumption was as low as .38 which is superb.
*** New Numbers***
724hp @ 7600 with 34 degrees of timing. With some more tuning it made more power but im not allowed to disclose anymore then this. as the owner doesnt want it disclosed. Ive got this dyno sheet to post when I get it scanned. The ignition setup still has problems. So no nitrous numbers. As of today, MSD knows of this and no one has taken this box that high of RPMs. They refunded us the money and now it will have a front mount GM distributer setup.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../HPIM0646a.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0648.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0649.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0650.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0652.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0653.jpg
More pics here.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0655.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0656.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0657.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0687.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0688.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/HPIM0689.jpg
Few video clips here.
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t=HPIM0690.flv
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t=HPIM0704.flv
http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t=HPIM0705.flv
Heads in progress
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090026.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090027.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1110030.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1110031.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1110032.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220009.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220010.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220011.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220012.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220015.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P9220016.jpg
GMPP Intake porting and fogger plumbing. Work in progress pics.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040001.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040002.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040003.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040004.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040006.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040007.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1040009.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050010.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050011.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050012.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050013.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050014.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050015.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050016.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050017.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050018.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050019.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050020.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1050021.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090022.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090023.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090024.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090025.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090028.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...a/P1090029.jpg
Enjoy folks. This is no cut-rate shop. So this is not a normal build that a sponsor would sell. This is well thought out parts and combination put to work with some R&D to make the power it does. Theres nothing off the shelf about it except the fogger, the intake before work, and the Dart cylinder heads before porting. We arent trying to say this is the baddest LS1 ever but what we are saying is that it makes MEAN power for small bore applications for a cam thats not even 260 degrees of duration with small heads! Everyone claims small CI dont make power, Dart heads dont make power, and the GMPP dont run well in high RPMs. Everything is been proven wrong here. This thing makes as much power as 420+ ci motors. Compare this to others around and you'll see that even this nitrous motor will compete with others NA setups. Thats something to speak about.
Last edited by V6 Bird; 01-30-2007 at 09:16 PM.
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Originally Posted by bad95killer
Very nice numbers so far buddy but i'm wondering where ya gonna put that built motor F-Body,Y-Body ?!
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
Good job Mike. And to think all these people think your a dick and dont know what your talking about
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
Congrats on those numbers. Very cool.
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Originally Posted by eric01ss
very nice mike and should run good and your guy do the heads?
BADFNZ, not my motor. It'd be fun for a little street motor to play with in my chassis though.
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
Good job Mike. And to think all these people think your a dick and dont know what your talking about
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Originally Posted by beardWS6
Very nice! How much spray will she take?
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Great job Mike. Keep that hood closed or you'll blow some minds, LOL!! Major thumbs up.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.