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Old 02-05-2010, 08:22 PM
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I just read the Ford has finally flexed some muscle and put some power in V-6 and Mustang GT. Enough to edge out the new Camaro pretty easily. A V6 with 310 HP compared to a 304 HP V6 Camaro wins every time. I know 6 Hp isn't much but that car is way lighter then the Camaro. The new 5.0 Mustang GT which features a new head design (still dohc) will be pump 415 HP which is just under an LS3 but don't forget how much lighter that car is and it's sitting on a solid rear axle. It's going to be quick, easily in the 12s out of the factory. As a huge GM fan that bugs me a little. I hope GM can find some cash to flex out a few more ponies as they usually do. At least The Z28 is going to come out and trump Shelby's GT500. Should make for some interesting street racing though. I can't wait till Kobe gets a chance to embarress a new GT owner.
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Been threads on this already. Ford appears to be getting their **** together that's for sure.
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but how well will it respond to mods?

the manifolds look like shorty headers right out of the box, it will be expensive as **** to cam, and supposedly the mustang will gain weight to meet newer safety requirements

besides that, do you really think GM can't do some minor changes to the ls3 and get more power?

I do think it's awesome they are finally giving the car some ***** though, now if only the new *** end wasn't so damn ugly
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
...now if only the new *** end wasn't so damn ugly
Are you talking about 5th gen Camaros or '10 Mustangs? Both rear ends look horrible IMO.
At least the playing field is level from that standpoint.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
but how well will it respond to mods?
It will respond very well to a hand-held tune just like the 3v GT's and OK to other bolt-ons. Much better to spray because of its CR.
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the manifolds look like shorty headers right out of the box, it will be expensive as **** to cam, and supposedly the mustang will gain weight to meet newer safety requirements
I've said this countless times, the safety regulations are only going into effect in 2012 (?) and are not mandatory until 2016. Ford confirmed its curb weight at 3603lbs for the manual coupe.
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besides that, do you really think GM can't do some minor changes to the ls3 and get more power?
Sure they could but do you really think they would give the SS Camaro more power than the Corvette? That will never happen.
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I do think it's awesome they are finally giving the car some ***** though, now if only the new *** end wasn't so damn ugly
Both of the back ends are terrible looking, but the '11 GT looks a ton better with an over-hanging wing like the GT500's.

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Originally Posted by JASON11WS6
I can't wait till Kobe gets a chance to embarress a new GT owner.
off-topic but lmao at your car's name. it's very similar to mine... O.J.
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Originally Posted by unit213
Are you talking about 5th gen Camaros or '10 Mustangs? Both rear ends look horrible IMO.
At least the playing field is level from that standpoint.


That's exactly what I was thinking.
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Originally Posted by CHRRRIS
off-topic but lmao at your car's name. it's very similar to mine... O.J.

I take it yours is fast, black and a killer. I thought about that one myself. Good call.
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Originally Posted by JASON11WS6
I take it yours is fast, black and a killer. I thought about that one myself. Good call.
fast, black and gets away with murder. my buddy named it at work a few weeks after I got it
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i know this is random but damn 8 quarts of oil, holy *****! that's a lot of damn oil.
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theres a gt350 coming out thats an SCed 5.0 making around 500hp.
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Originally Posted by unit213
Are you talking about 5th gen Camaros or '10 Mustangs? Both rear ends look horrible IMO.
At least the playing field is level from that standpoint.
The rear of the Stang looks horrible. I don't understand how they could make the front look so nice and screw up the rearend so bad. There is plenty to complain about in the new Camaro as well. I don't see it aging gracefully like the 69's did.
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Originally Posted by JASON11WS6
At least The Z28 is going to come out and trump Shelby's GT500. Should make for some interesting street racing though. I can't wait till Kobe gets a chance to embarress a new GT owner.
The 2011 Shelby is going to be lighter, and have more HP. Not saying it's going to spank the Z28. Just saying.

Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
I do think it's awesome they are finally giving the car some ***** though, now if only the new *** end wasn't so damn ugly
I for one am GLAD Ford is finally trying to make the Mustang look modern again. The retro thing was neat for a year or so.. then it got stale. The 2011 GT looks like a mix between a NewEdge and a S197. I like it.

The 2011 is also more aerodynamic.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
It will respond very well to a hand-held tune just like the 3v GT's and OK to other bolt-ons. Much better to spray because of its CR.
That might be true but it will not even come close to the ls3 when being modded. I bet N/A ls1 motors will still be too much for the new 5.0 let alone one of the 4.0+" bore gm motors.
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
I bet N/A ls1 motors will still be too much for the new 5.0
mmmmm I am not so sure about that. The current GT keeps up with a stock LS1 fbody till about 70-80 from what I am told here. This one has over 100 more HP, and a better over all engine.
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The 305 hp 4.6 DOHC with all the bolt ons was less than stock LS f bodies
And am not so sure about this one either. Considering how close a stock Mach1 is to a stock LS fbody. A full bolt-on Mach1 would easily take a stock LS1 fbody.
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any of these 5.0s hit the street yet??
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Nope.
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I don't think anyone was saying a stock LS1 will be too much for the new 5.0. Mild bolt ons should put the two about even, and cam, heads, or even a converter will put the LS1 out front. This is assuming the 5.0 runs in the 12.8 range.

But really, who has a stock LS1 anymore, most of us shouldn't be worried.
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I've been hearing 12.5 ranges..

Not many stock 5.0s going to be out there either I don't think.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
mmmmm I am not so sure about that. The current GT keeps up with a stock LS1 fbody till about 70-80 from what I am told here. This one has over 100 more HP, and a better over all engine.
well dont believe me but even with the small bore of the ls1 there are proven h/c/i/e setups that make 500rwhp on pump. You are not going to see that with these mustangs.

These new 4.6 engines will not respond very well to boltons or head and cam swaps either just watch and see.


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