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Old 03-06-2007, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
What's the purpose of a .50 cal anyway?
What's the purpose of any gun for that matter then, why do we even need .22s?
Maybe cops shouldn't have guns either for that matter?
Why do we need 400hp cars?
Why do we need hamburgers?
Who's to say what one does and/or does not need?
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
What's the purpose of any gun for that matter then, why do we even need .22s?
Maybe cops shouldn't have guns either for that matter?
Why do we need 400hp cars?
Why do we need hamburgers?
Who's to say what one does and/or does not need?
That is exactly the question...what do you really need in life...


In our current society, you need a roof over your head, you have to pay taxes (if you want to stay out of jail, provided you make enough money and are required to file), you need some form of transportation (or live close enough to a place of employment you could walk).

Sure...society has changed, sure the need for firearms changes, but things remain constant:

The second ammendment is just that, an ammendment that garuntees us a right.
Use of arms for self defense, defense of the community (think Katrina), defense of the country (think against an attack from a foriegn agressor with a land attack) and defense from the country (those who want total control over the citizens).
The american way: Guns are as American as Apple pie.
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Originally Posted by 11 Bravo
You and I both. This place is a different planet. I can't recall anyone being murdered by a .50 cal sniper rifle. Can't recall hearing about a child bringing one to school, either.
a .50cal rifle is a 36+ lb rifle that can cost $4000+. every bullet is $3. not just anyone goes and gets one. and even if you have one, you'd have to practice with it to be proficient enough to use it for anything purposeful.

so basicaly, its not going to be used to commit any crimes by any normal people.
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Originally Posted by z28C4maro82z
Wait until the day when we have no rights at all, oh wait, is that not what we are essentially living right now. Our rights have been seized, and no one seems to do anything about it
The uprising of the people will eventually happen, its a matter of time until we snap and take this country from the scum that lead and set policy in this country. When the dems take the country in 08 we will find out how bad it will get and that will be the breaking point.
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Originally Posted by z28convert
hitler started banning guns in germany before the holucost supposedly for the citizens safety sake. then when people were getting rounded up for death camps they didnt have any real weapons to defend themselves.....interesting......
EXACTLY! Never again means just that.
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Originally Posted by sb427f-car
The american way: Guns are as American as Apple pie.
apple pie is from England...
but we did invent the Chinese fortune cookie.....
sadly, i dont think the term "..as American as a Chinese fortune cookie" has the same ring to it.


in anycase... having never shot a .50 cal rifle before... i want to.
im not "into" guns or anything... but ive shot some bigger rounds before, and it was fun... this has to be one hell of a fun gun to shoot.

anyone in SC have one i can shoot? ive got $3 for a bullet.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
The uprising of the people will eventually happen, its a matter of time until we snap and take this country from the scum that lead and set policy in this country. When the dems take the country in 08 we will find out how bad it will get and that will be the breaking point.
Yeah, you people planning another civil war down there?
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
Yeah, you people planning another civil war down there?
Just maybe...only this time...you liberals won't have any arms (since you don't believe in the second ammendment) and I doubt that the majority of the military members will help back yall up
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Originally Posted by sb427f-car
Just maybe...only this time...you liberals won't have any arms (since you don't believe in the second ammendment) and I doubt that the majority of the military members will help back yall up
Right! Hopefully, you'll be whacked enough to try it!
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Originally Posted by sb427f-car
Just maybe...only this time...you liberals won't have any arms (since you don't believe in the second ammendment) and I doubt that the majority of the military members will help back yall up

im far from a political person, but by definition, isnt a liberal, one who believes in an individuals rights?
going by that general definition, wouldnt it be a "gun control" clause be anti-liberal?
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Originally Posted by MrDude_1
im far from a political person, but by definition, isnt a liberal, one who believes in an individuals rights?
going by that general definition, wouldnt it be a "gun control" clause be anti-liberal?
Liberal = socialist...


It's an oxymoron.
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Originally Posted by WJ SOM SS
Right! Hopefully, you'll be whacked enough to try it!
Viva la resistance!


Man you're dense.
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You guys are missing the point and most certainly misconstruing what I said.

Like Mr. B said, pick your battles. There is no practical need for .50 BMG firing weapons. Novelty is the only reason, which I don't agree with. A gun is a tool.

Originally Posted by 11 Bravo
Think about what that law abiding citizen could do with an automobile. Your argument holds no weight. What does someone want with a .50 cal? It's none of your business, that's what. If you research what the real purpose of the Second Amendment is you will find it is not to go rabbit hunting or to shoot paper targets
Not as much and I know full well what the second amendment is for.

Timmy, I know how much fun they are. Like I said I've fired BMG weapons. Hell I fired a Mk 19, and it was stupid fun. Doesn't mean I think the average citizen should own one.

Who here thinks convicted violent felons should legally be able to own hand guns?
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civil war would be weird......I'm in the guard.....so......I have a commission with my state(MD), and the US. so.........dunno
personely..........THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!!!!!
YEEEEHHHHAAAAW!!!!!
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Originally Posted by obsolete346
You guys are missing the point and most certainly misconstruing what I said.

Like Mr. B said, pick your battles. There is no practical need for .50 BMG firing weapons. Novelty is the only reason, which I don't agree with. A gun is a tool.


Not as much and I know full well what the second amendment is for.

Timmy, I know how much fun they are. Like I said I've fired BMG weapons. Hell I fired a Mk 19, and it was stupid fun. Doesn't mean I think the average citizen should own one.

Who here thinks convicted violent felons should legally be able to own hand guns?


Bullshit...you don't pick battles, you fight all of them. That's the problem in this country, we have to be all compromising when there is really nothing to compromise over.

It is a PROVEN HISTORICAL FACT, that gun control is piecemeal (not all at once). Ask the Australians that would have said 5 years ago...ok, as long as you don't take away our target rifles.


Even you know as an ex-mil man there are more powerful loads than a 671 grained .50 BMG round. There are pleanty of grizzly killer .458 loads. Additionally, Barret has their good old .499, what's NJ going to do next...ban that?
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Originally Posted by obsolete346
Timmy, I know how much fun they are. Like I said I've fired BMG weapons. Hell I fired a Mk 19, and it was stupid fun. Doesn't mean I think the average citizen should own one.
Why not? Private ownership of these guns have NO impact on crime. More people are killed every year by baseball bats. Like I said before... I could do more damage with 10 gallons of gas and a match than a .50cal. Banning something because of a perceived threat is ignorance... It's like driving an SUV... there is no need for a soccer mom to drive a three ton suburban down the street... After all I would say alot of those succer moms driving around something the size of a small bus is more of a threat to the general public than my weapons in my safe.
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Originally Posted by obsolete346
There is no practical need for .50 BMG firing weapons. Novelty is the only reason, which I don't agree with.
There is no practical need for your 2000 Trans Am convertable. Novelty is the only reason. I bet more innocent US citizens have died from Trans Am's than .50 cal sniper rifles.
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Originally Posted by 11 Bravo
There is no practical need for your 2000 Trans Am convertable. Novelty is the only reason. I bet more innocent US citizens have died from Trans Am's than .50 cal sniper rifles.
Beat me to it...yugos for everyone.
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Originally Posted by 11 Bravo
There is no practical need for your 2000 Trans Am convertable. Novelty is the only reason. I bet more innocent US citizens have died from Trans Am's than .50 cal sniper rifles.
very true. If government can ban one thing for the sole reason that it isnt a needed item, then they could take our cars and make us all drive the same car because a LS1 is "not needed".

This is modern day Marxist communism.
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