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he didnt actually say that but im sure he would be more than happy to race u. I would love to go to an 1/8 mile track and video it. this weekend to soon? He swears he pulled u off the line.
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Originally Posted by silver-mod-o
Does anyone know of a shop anywhere around that does accurate flow testing?? I need two intake manifolds flowed for comparison.... I got somethin up my sleeve ![The Jester](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_jest.gif)
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Originally Posted by gyrene2003
he didnt actually say that but im sure he would be more than happy to race u. I would love to go to an 1/8 mile track and video it. this weekend to soon? He swears he pulled u off the line.
I guess if he considers that he "pulled" me then ok... while I was at about 60% throttle trying not to slide sideways into someone. I'll accept that
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-I dont think I have to worry about much at the track with his full 1 secnd r/t and 2.4 60' I'll be passing the 330' when he gets his **** into gear....
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroZ28
darren when you were talking about a track in obx, is it actually in the outer banks or just named that? since ill be down there this week anyway
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Originally Posted by silver-mod-o
its between Elizabeth City and Hertford on US-17
So you talking about the track Herford or OBX??
OBX is the one we go to.....
http://www.outerbanksspeedway.com/
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
So you talking about the track Herford or OBX??
OBX is the one we go to.....
http://www.outerbanksspeedway.com/
Kyle
OBX is the one we go to.....
http://www.outerbanksspeedway.com/
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and BTW... I'll be heading down there this Friday to do some tuning... and some *** whipping...
anyone who wants to come out feel free... if you need a ride down, let me know, I gotta back seat still
anyone who wants to come out feel free... if you need a ride down, let me know, I gotta back seat still
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Originally Posted by silver-mod-o
and BTW... I'll be heading down there this Friday to do some tuning... and some *** whipping...
anyone who wants to come out feel free... if you need a ride down, let me know, I gotta back seat still![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
anyone who wants to come out feel free... if you need a ride down, let me know, I gotta back seat still
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Thinking about going to Temple raceway tomorrow night.... its there test & Tune night....
If i do ill take pic's....
BTW i never went to Fun Ford...
We did drive up there, but when they told me $55 to watch... and it was already noon and they were done @ 5pm.... we were like HELL NO
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Wish i could..... im in TX... flew in today..... @ FT Hood and ill be in San antonio this weekend....
Thinking about going to Temple raceway tomorrow night.... its there test & Tune night....
If i do ill take pic's....
BTW i never went to Fun Ford...
We did drive up there, but when they told me $55 to watch... and it was already noon and they were done @ 5pm.... we were like HELL NO
Kyle
Thinking about going to Temple raceway tomorrow night.... its there test & Tune night....
If i do ill take pic's....
BTW i never went to Fun Ford...
We did drive up there, but when they told me $55 to watch... and it was already noon and they were done @ 5pm.... we were like HELL NO
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and I already got my flow numbers... these arent with throttle bodies like I wanted but, they do show the results I figured they would.
Here's what I ended up with.
With all the discussion about the various Gen 3 intakes, I thought I’d do some bench testing of some of the different manifolds available. Some results were predictable and others were not. First I tested one of our Stage 2, 6.0l CNC ported intake ports with a radius flow plate to establish a baseline. Next I tested a rectangular radius flow plate that blocked off the triangular intake roof entrance. The rectangular plate approximates the size and location of the manifold’s runner match up at the head. In total I tested 5 intake manifolds. I didn’t have a FAST to test, but if I get the opportunity, I’ll test and post the results.
Lift______.100__.200__.300__.350__.400__.450__.500 __.550__.600__.650
Port only__71.4_149.5_213.7_233.5_251.7_271.2_286.5_303 .1_280.6_286.5
Rect.Plate_70.3_149.4_206.5_226.9_244.3_259.2_272. 2_275.7_274.6_278.8
Truck Int._70.3_143.9_194.4_209.8_220.5_229.2_234.2_237. 7_243.1_248.5
SSR90mm_70.3_145.0_190.0_205.0_215.9_226.3_238.3_2 48.4_253.0_256.2
LS1 Int.___70.2_142.6_189.1_203.2_216.5_226.9_235.3_23 8.1_238.1_237.4
LS6 Int.___70.2_144.4_200.0_215.8_227.6_238.1_244.9_25 0.2_256.0_263.0
VictorJr.___71.4_147.7_205.7_224.7_240.2_254.7_268 .5_264.2_263.0_275.8
The test was performed on a JKM600 Flow bench. I tested what would be the number 3 cylinder on each intake (one of the two center ports). There were no throttle bodies used in any of the tests. All ports were capped to force air to flow through the manifolds. My sources tell me that the 5.3l and 6.0l truck intakes are identical. If anyone can confirm this I'd appreciate it.
Some comments and observations…… I wasn’t too surprised to see the LS6 and Edelbrock intakes do better than the truck and LS1. I was surprised to see the SSR do as well as it did because it looks like a 90mm throttle body flange was grafted onto a standard truck intake. What can we learn from this test? These tests can help us evaluate each intake runners flow capacity. In other words, how restrictive they are. I suppose I should test each and every runner, but I haven't got the time for that. This test cannot tell us how the intake performs in entirety. That’s up to the dyno or race track. I certainly believe the truck intake becomes a flow restriction in the higher rpm ranges especially on more highly tuned applications. The truck’s dual chamber design can produce excellent low end torque similar to a dual plane carb intake, but sacrifice top end performance while the LS6 provides better mid range and top end but not quite like the Victor Jr..
![](http://www.public.asu.edu/~cwessel/flow.JPG)
And just the three intakes that the truck guys are generally interested in
![](http://www.public.asu.edu/~cwessel/flowspecific.JPG)
-just if anyone is interested for their own personal info....
Here's what I ended up with.
With all the discussion about the various Gen 3 intakes, I thought I’d do some bench testing of some of the different manifolds available. Some results were predictable and others were not. First I tested one of our Stage 2, 6.0l CNC ported intake ports with a radius flow plate to establish a baseline. Next I tested a rectangular radius flow plate that blocked off the triangular intake roof entrance. The rectangular plate approximates the size and location of the manifold’s runner match up at the head. In total I tested 5 intake manifolds. I didn’t have a FAST to test, but if I get the opportunity, I’ll test and post the results.
Lift______.100__.200__.300__.350__.400__.450__.500 __.550__.600__.650
Port only__71.4_149.5_213.7_233.5_251.7_271.2_286.5_303 .1_280.6_286.5
Rect.Plate_70.3_149.4_206.5_226.9_244.3_259.2_272. 2_275.7_274.6_278.8
Truck Int._70.3_143.9_194.4_209.8_220.5_229.2_234.2_237. 7_243.1_248.5
SSR90mm_70.3_145.0_190.0_205.0_215.9_226.3_238.3_2 48.4_253.0_256.2
LS1 Int.___70.2_142.6_189.1_203.2_216.5_226.9_235.3_23 8.1_238.1_237.4
LS6 Int.___70.2_144.4_200.0_215.8_227.6_238.1_244.9_25 0.2_256.0_263.0
VictorJr.___71.4_147.7_205.7_224.7_240.2_254.7_268 .5_264.2_263.0_275.8
The test was performed on a JKM600 Flow bench. I tested what would be the number 3 cylinder on each intake (one of the two center ports). There were no throttle bodies used in any of the tests. All ports were capped to force air to flow through the manifolds. My sources tell me that the 5.3l and 6.0l truck intakes are identical. If anyone can confirm this I'd appreciate it.
Some comments and observations…… I wasn’t too surprised to see the LS6 and Edelbrock intakes do better than the truck and LS1. I was surprised to see the SSR do as well as it did because it looks like a 90mm throttle body flange was grafted onto a standard truck intake. What can we learn from this test? These tests can help us evaluate each intake runners flow capacity. In other words, how restrictive they are. I suppose I should test each and every runner, but I haven't got the time for that. This test cannot tell us how the intake performs in entirety. That’s up to the dyno or race track. I certainly believe the truck intake becomes a flow restriction in the higher rpm ranges especially on more highly tuned applications. The truck’s dual chamber design can produce excellent low end torque similar to a dual plane carb intake, but sacrifice top end performance while the LS6 provides better mid range and top end but not quite like the Victor Jr..
And just the three intakes that the truck guys are generally interested in
-just if anyone is interested for their own personal info....
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Originally Posted by gyrene2003
he didnt actually say that but im sure he would be more than happy to race u. I would love to go to an 1/8 mile track and video it. this weekend to soon? He swears he pulled u off the line.
Dude did you ever get your self a stall???? Its nice up here in Whidbey, But damn I am not kidding there are so many Ricers. its not even funny. They run in packs of 20's around here. And they all think they are hot ****. They usually sit along side the road and converse with eachother and throw there hands up like they wanna race, and as soon as you throw a rev or something they run scared. lol. So how is Jenro's and Basspro going. I kinda miss it up there. Talk at you later man.
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well, im doin alittle somethin at my house tommorow if anyone is intrested. just alittle grillin and hangin out. shoot me a pm if anyone wants to come by and wash their **** at my place and hang out. im in hampton right by bass pro.
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took my car to get tuned today...found out i have a weak #7 cylinder. I didnt notice it before and now i feel like an idiot. im gonna check the basic things tom. i guess...plugs, wires etc. anything else i should look for?
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Originally Posted by 01CamaroZ28
took my car to get tuned today...found out i have a weak #7 cylinder. I didnt notice it before and now i feel like an idiot. im gonna check the basic things tom. i guess...plugs, wires etc. anything else i should look for?