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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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Welp, I think I am going to call it a season. I havent gone much due to clutch issues which really isnt all that bad but I didnt like it all that much either, also time and money and frankly the car is more of a cruiser/street car.

The car has done a 12.8 @ 109 with a 3.42 gear and since I switched to the 4.11's the car now wants to spin. Frankly I just need seat time. I just ordered Line Lock which wont show up till next week. After racing tonight I have noticed my drag radials have no stick left to them, they are over 2 years old and I drove the **** out of them. I even did a lil burnout and when I rolled out it hooked nice but thats on the launch pad, but when I went about 30 feet out off the line, it spins.

I got 4 runs, and I changed the launch technique everytime and I got better with burning out and it made a difference. But regardless the tires just are dead.

1) 13.258 @ 107.56 w/ 2.049 60 foot
2) 13.391 @ 103.43 w/ 2.189 (blown launch and stayed in it)
3) 13.357 @ 107.06 w/ 2.123
4) 13.421 @ 106.78 w/ 2.145

I ran in the bracket race and until someone dropped gear oil on the track, I left early. The car needs to be dynoed and I need to get a tune in it. Also tires, clutch and line lock. I think it will do very well. I am getting down the technique and I am developing a system that works for me, all runs had 26 psi in the tire. I ran much higher when I got my 109mph.

On a side note I raced my 4 races against a LT1 formula with some bolt ons, exhaust and n20, wet shot. Our 1st run he was on motor and 13.858 @ 101.9 with a 2.239 60 foot, basically on motor, M6 car on street tires.

Our 2nd run he decided to spray me, He managed a 12.884 @ 113.17 w/ 2.227 60 foot, after the run, I said that was a nice 125 shot, he didnt want to talk about it, all he said was its getting colder lol. I told him I did a 113 in my A4 383 LT1 on motor but ran a 12.086 ET, he just walked away. Sad that my Lid, Headers, and Cat back scared him to spray me.

Anyways, its late, im tired, got plently of ideas for next year.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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Nice runs Aaron. Sounds like the lt1 needed the spray.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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Good deal man. Line Lock helps that's for sure, you'll be a happy camper and then your tires will be warmer and ready to go.... hopefully with more traction!

Seat time is crucial as I have learned... I still need more of it no doubt! For me to race more this season I either need to cage the car, "sandbag it" or simply go to other tracks further away just to get booted from them.. so my season is looking slim as well. Who knows what the winter mod bug has in store but it's going to be a long one if I hang up the towel now..... I imagine the same for you? Good luck man!
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 06:04 AM
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Thanks guys!

I figure if I bought tires now I might actually manage to smoke the clutch and I just dont want to chance it, plus buying them in the spring will make them fresh . When I 1st got the M/T the stick to them was un beleiveable. I'll definitly buy another set.

My buddy just picked up a 2000 z28 with like 20k on the clock, M6, Ultra Z hood, SLP lid and a cat back, with 3.42 gears he was mid 13's @ 107-109, its a lighter car with a tune and he (with my advice) left it in 3rd and was at the optimal rpm to get that time. I got my best time that way too.

My car needs more power, If all goes well then I can man up to a blower.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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Nice runs Aaron. Im still trying to figure out why the car isnt doing as well as I would have anticipated. I am in no means bashing you, but with the lt's and the ls6 intake you have quite an advantage (hp wise) over a similarly set-up car.


My Z went 13.5@107 consistently with just the GMMG, SLP lid, BMR non adjustable PHR, and non adjustable poly/poly LCAs.

I know your car is heavier than my car was/is, but I still dont think the mph is quite where it should be. The tune should be your ticket, most definitely. I wouldnt be suprised if you picked up an easy 18-20hp just with a tune (considering the parts you have and the mph you have vs. what you should be pulling closer to 111-112 IMHO).


Regardless, at least it is consistent.


If you still need a clutch I still have the RamHD, Im going to be going with a different clutch (tex OZ700 for me) to handle the power a little better. I know TexasSpeed runs the HD in their s/c vette, so its not lacking in any way/shape or form, and its a full faced disc, no puck style clutch. As far as price, Im very lenient =).
PS- email me at work. I really want to see how fast this kids 07 vette is next to your car (known traps/et)

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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Yea, consistant is good. The scale wasnt open but a combo of non optimal tune, cats, weight and possibly slipping clutch (through out the run) could lead to the off mph. It has headers but being untuned, it could be anywhere in regard to power, the 12 bolt and steel DS not only creat a parasitic loss of power, its static weight. I have the fiberglass hood going on over the winter, it will take some weight off the nose.

We just saw a LS2 vette and with a blown run doing high 13's so anything can happen
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine

My buddy just picked up a 2000 z28 with like 20k on the clock, M6, Ultra Z hood, SLP lid and a cat back, with 3.42 gears he was mid 13's @ 107-109,
i like to think of a 13.3 as a low 13 lol
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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i like to think of a 13.3 as a low 13 lol
Mmhmm, do I know you?
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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I guarintee the BS machine's car is 3900 lbs or more... that being said I think the trap speeds for the given power aren't that far off really.

The car needs a tune, tires and a clutch, a set of frame connectors would be the next thing I personally would do.... but getting some weight out of it would most definately make a big difference. The car still had the stock rear in it when it ran 12.8 if I remember correctly, I wouldn't be surprised if the 12 bolt weight and drivetrain loss are 1/2 of what has slowed it a bit from where it was at. But I'd take the reliability anyday.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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tune tires seat time with the new gears and youll have it
if you cant hook the run wont be great trust me

what was the 60 on your 12.8? alot lower im sure.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by badpewter-z
tune tires seat time with the new gears and youll have it
if you cant hook the run wont be great trust me

what was the 60 on your 12.8? alot lower im sure.
I'll have to dig up the slip I beleive it was a HIGH 1.9X if not 2.0X I did run that time with the 12 already in, I broke it that time and went back in may but had the same sort of spin issues.

The car is def heavy, I need to loose a little, so does the car but its not getting gutted lol.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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Awsome man! Your 60ft's are very similar to mine, and I'm auto, wish I could have gone that day. What was your 60ft when you ran 12.8?

edit: Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread when I replied.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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way back when i first got my car i went to SLP day and ran 13.2@109 with 2.21 60ft times and the car had a lid and frame connectors
ever since as mods got added i have never made good runs at the track i have killed a clutch or two, broke gears, and lastly most recently i did get one of these on the first run see pic below, the point is go have fun for YOU and not anyone else, and Arron if ya want to go back some time soon try my slicks and see how the car does on a hard launch
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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That maybe a plan, maybe we can get JL to trailer it and we can use your 26" tall sticky tires of Doom! I know its more weight but I fully trust my 3" steel unit!!

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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That was a great night temp-wise for racing, but the track prep seemed to be sub-par (as usual). I know Ron was happy with his MPH and runs considering he's got the 12-bolt now, and Sean was pretty happy with his times (as he should be). Time for you and I to get our **** together, haha.
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Track prep on wednesdays was never as good because of the damn imports dragging water down the track.

Go on a saturday, and the track is actually pretty good. I've gotten 1.45 60 foot's on radials off the footbrake..... track can't be THAT badly prepped.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Even being off a little it's still a beast for a bolt on car.

I think I know the guy you ran against, it was a purple Formula, right? He was telling me he used to run mids 13's on motor but then he gutted his muffler and actually dropped a few tenths. Makes me think twice about messing with mine.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Formula413
Even being off a little it's still a beast for a bolt on car.

I think I know the guy you ran against, it was a purple Formula, right? He was telling me he used to run mids 13's on motor but then he gutted his muffler and actually dropped a few tenths. Makes me think twice about messing with mine.
Yea Alex, you got it, a Purple Formula, I forget how awesome LT1's sound, they make my LS1 and pretty much everyone elses sound wussy.

His last run was a 13.6 @ 101 and so I figure he can tag a mid 13 easy.
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmy169
Awsome man! Your 60ft's are very similar to mine, and I'm auto, wish I could have gone that day. What was your 60ft when you ran 12.8?

edit: Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread when I replied.
I'll honestly will have to dig up the slip, it was either a HIGH 1.9X or a Low 2.0X
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Yea Alex, you got it, a Purple Formula, I forget how awesome LT1's sound, they make my LS1 and pretty much everyone elses sound wussy.

Thats because you guys dont/didnt have GMMG/LT/ORY
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