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Old 04-06-2009, 08:47 PM
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Can anyone tell me where the wire with the heat wrap go? I am not getting spark to my coils!!

Old 04-06-2009, 08:51 PM
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IIRC, that goes to your EGR which looks to have been deleted on your car
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Ok cool, anyone know why it might not be fireing? It's getting fuel and oil, I don't think it's getting spark though.
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Anyone?
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Try your ignition relay, swap it out with a fan relay.
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Looks like the plug to the AC compressor.. BTW- Why is this in the FI section?
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Make sure the crank sensor is plugged in good and that your wires aren't nicked.
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where is the crank sensor?
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It's in here because it's a turbo build
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Between the starter and block. That plug is definately the a/c compressor plug, it would not have anything to do with a no-start. Check the ground on the back of the heads, and the ground on the radiator core support.

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Yep forgot to plug in the cranck sensor. I am getting spark now but the car acks like it wants to start for a second, i little pop, the i pull the plugs out and they have fuel on them. I take them out and clean them and same thing. Could this be VATS? cutting my Ignition? I dont know what else it could be.
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well found the problem, they guy that sold me the injectors told me they were high ind. but they were low ind.
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Originally Posted by dreamls1
well found the problem, they guy that sold me the injectors told me they were high ind. but they were low ind.
So now theres a 99% chance you have a fried ECU.....
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
So now theres a 99% chance you have a fried ECU.....
how so?
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Its happened to plenty on here....the ECU was setup for high impedance injectors....you throw low impedance injectors on and you create a short and fry the computer.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Its happened to plenty on here....the ECU was setup for high impedance injectors....you throw low impedance injectors on and you create a short and fry the computer.
I never heard that before. I'm not saying your wrong but I dont see how the impedance delivered can damage the ECU.
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Originally Posted by WS6HUMMER
I never heard that before. I'm not saying your wrong but I dont see how the impedance delivered can damage the ECU.
Me either. But if its true you better watch out
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Wouldn't it over amp the injector driver circuit?
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Shortest answer i could find from someone other than myself Like i said too much current, ie almost like a short.
"Why can't I run low-impedance injectors with the factory ECU?

Virtually all cars come with high-impedance injectors. The ECU turns high impedance injectors on and off with a simple switch, much like an ordinary light switch. Turn the switch on when you want fuel, turn it off when you don't.

But you can't run low-impedance injectors that way or you will burn them out! These injectors need to be carefully controlled, so a simple on/off switch will not work. They need something more like a dimmer switch. Turn them on all the way to get them to open, then after they open, turn down the dimmer so they don't get too hot.
The second problem is that the ECU's injector drivers can't handle the large electric current needed for low-impedance injectors. Low impedance injectors need about 4 times as much current as high-impedance injectors. This much current will burn out the transistors in the ECU that run the injectors, unless the injectors burn out first"
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Shortest answer i could find from someone other than myself Like i said too much current, ie almost like a short.
"Why can't I run low-impedance injectors with the factory ECU?

Virtually all cars come with high-impedance injectors. The ECU turns high impedance injectors on and off with a simple switch, much like an ordinary light switch. Turn the switch on when you want fuel, turn it off when you don't.

But you can't run low-impedance injectors that way or you will burn them out! These injectors need to be carefully controlled, so a simple on/off switch will not work. They need something more like a dimmer switch. Turn them on all the way to get them to open, then after they open, turn down the dimmer so they don't get too hot.
The second problem is that the ECU's injector drivers can't handle the large electric current needed for low-impedance injectors. Low impedance injectors need about 4 times as much current as high-impedance injectors. This much current will burn out the transistors in the ECU that run the injectors, unless the injectors burn out first"
Ok I understand most of that but the only thing I'm not sure about is how can it burn the ECU out if the ECU is only supplying a ground pulse? When I wired in my injector driver to my lowZ injectors I found out that the pink wire (Pretty sure its pink) that goes to all the injectors on an LS1 are all hot with the key on in run. All the other wires are controlled ground pulses from the ECU.

I'm not saying your wrong at all, I'm just trying to understand how a ground pulse to a different type of injector could damage the ecu. I totaly understand how it could fry the inlector.


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