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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Default L19 head studs

this si probly not the right place. but figured a boosted guy would know.

anyone know what these get torqued down to?
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 01:33 PM
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I know a set of 1/2in ones cost $1400!!!!lol I think 130ft lbs but i'm not positive.I'm sure shawn from VA or someone will chime in.
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^^^ i thought it was 155. but not sure. lol

and mine are just the normal size L19. they cost close to 600
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When you call ARP & depending on who you talk to, they will tell you 90-110 ft.lbs. However their ARP 2000 kit for the LSX block says 105 and is of a lower tensil strength material. On all the L19 I have used I usually go to 100ft. lbs. What we have seen is that the threads in the nut are not capable of suporting the loads that are created by the increased torque. To increase the torque value when using L19 & 2000 material studs LME sources nuts from ARP that have more material supporting the threads to help eliminate the deformation of the threads in the nut. So to answer you question. I would go to 100 ft. lbs. and you will be in good shape. If you want to get the stronger nuts you need ARP#APN12-2 This will help you out.
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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^^^ thank you.
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^^^ and if i get the up graded nuts then what?
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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan@LME
When you call ARP & depending on who you talk to, they will tell you 90-110 ft.lbs. However their ARP 2000 kit for the LSX block says 105 and is of a lower tensil strength material. On all the L19 I have used I usually go to 100ft. lbs. What we have seen is that the threads in the nut are not capable of suporting the loads that are created by the increased torque. To increase the torque value when using L19 & 2000 material studs LME sources nuts from ARP that have more material supporting the threads to help eliminate the deformation of the threads in the nut. So to answer you question. I would go to 100 ft. lbs. and you will be in good shape. If you want to get the stronger nuts you need ARP#APN12-2 This will help you out.

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Old Jul 9, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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^^^ and if i get the up graded nuts then what?
You can bump up the torque to 120. This is the max I would go. You are then starting to ask alot from the threads in the block.
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Originally Posted by sr71bbjr
Where is my motor Brian!



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Get your check book out buddy...It will be together next week!
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 01:54 AM
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You can bump up the torque to 120. This is the max I would go. You are then starting to ask alot from the threads in the block.
I was told to only go 90-95lbs if using an aluminum block when I called last year and ordered the studs.
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So I was talking to a local engine builder today that told me that about a year ago ARP updated all of their torque specs for their head studs. For example, with the standard ARP LS1 head studs the old torque specs where 70lbs, and with the revised torque specs its 80lbs. I am suprised I didn't hear about this here.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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It has been brought up before.
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well i got ahold of Justin at ARP he said start with 90. if heads lift go to 95. if that dont work buy upgrade nut and go to 110. and if that dont work. might need 1/2 studd.

that would suck
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fwiw,we have std ARP studs on Fireball's engine,i torqued them to 95ft lbs,If the heads are lifting it's not the fastener's fault.I do not use the L19 head studs because i do not see a purpose for them,but if it were me i would tq them to a minimum of 105ft lbs,fastener won't do any good it it isn't stretched properly
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
fwiw,we have std ARP studs on Fireball's engine,i torqued them to 95ft lbs,If the heads are lifting it's not the fastener's fault.I do not use the L19 head studs because i do not see a purpose for them,but if it were me i would tq them to a minimum of 105ft lbs,fastener won't do any good it it isn't stretched properly
ok i bought my cam from you and talked to you in the past so i respect for opinion.
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you say 105

and ARP(they made them) say 90-95

why? i have not fired motor yet. so idk if heads will lift. also i dont want the threads to give out in the block. if you really think 105 is the best i can easily torque them down. but you tell me. your the better engine man.
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.I do not use the L19 head studs because i do not see a purpose for them,but if it were me i would tq them to a minimum of 105ft lbs,fastener won't do any good it it isn't stretched properly
Is it safe to go 105lbs on an aluminum block?
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Is it safe to go 105lbs on an aluminum block?
Yes. And then some.
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I recently bought some so this is good info.
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I torqued mine to 100 ft-lbs and have had no problems at all at 18.5 lbs of boost with the Fel-pro 5 layer MLS head gaskets.
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